The Best Laid Plans....ruined opener.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

edit add: I should note...I talked the wife into going a little early for the walk last night so there was a good hour before sunset, just in case the neighbour was out hunting...

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Your wife just screwed his hunt for sure now :)

No way will that big buck know when things are going to happen, 30min earlier, just messed up the whole thing.

I know what you are saying about the farmers coming out, we had the manure spreaders wreck a great goose setup in North Gower 2 years ago and my dad and I were almost hit by liquid manure back when I was a teen. We rarely hunted before the crops came off, I would hate to have something go down in a field with beans still on only to destroy a pile of them getting the animal out.

Although it sucks to have a hunt ruined, I tend to see it on Mikes side. As the hunter on the other property it could very well ruin a hunt, or it could be a blessing in disguise! If I was that hunter I would be out well before "the walk" for Mike to push anything out my way. I would almost be thinking of him as a dogger with a dog that only runs 20yrds!

Anyone that pushes bush that is on a buck knows they do not run straight. They will most likely circle around. We can not flame someone for doing something on his OWN property. I have been on a watch in a family owned sugar bush to only have the skidder go by and ask how things are going. Stuff happens but sometimes it happens for a reason, because after that seems like everything that was bedded down was moving and I filled my tag.

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Originally Posted by krismerry

We can not flame someone for doing something on his OWN property. I have been on a watch in a family owned sugar bush to only have the skidder go by and ask how things are going. Stuff happens but sometimes it happens for a reason, because after that seems like everything that was bedded down was moving and I filled my tag.

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This happens all too often, unless you own the land you have no say at all.

I have a few friends who were angry that they were asked not to hunt a property until after the November shotgun hunt in SW Ontario. They felt that since they had been hunting it for 10 years they should be allowed to be there during the prime time. Well since they do not own the land they have no right to do anything, they can simply continue to help out the farmer, bring along some meat when they have some and ask again next year.

Be respectful to the owner but let the owner do what they want with their land.

If you need to control some land then you have the ability to go out and buy your own.

This post is nothing but a search for validation. If you feel bad about spooking the deer, be accommodating and vary your pattern a few days of the year. If you feel like you're doing no wrong on your property, don't change. But why post this at all other than to be reassured that you are right. "Look at what I can do!" - Stuart Larkin (Mad TV)

MikePal,

Curious to know why you started this thread?
What was the intended purpose of it?
Is it about expressing your landowner rights?
Is it about your neighbor is a nice guy, but not very bright when it comes to picking stand locations based on known variables?
What do you suppose your neighbor would think if he read this thread?
Do you think Karma will affect your hunting this fall?

What I got out of this post was that while this neighbour was excericising his right to build a new stand in a perfect looking spot after leasing out his farm to get good crops to draw deer out of Mikes and others farms there was one problem. Mike and his wife walk their dogs on their side of the fence early and late in the day as that's usually when dogs want to be outside and when they get to walk them.
Same as my place, my Gf can't do it when she's at work.

The moral of the story was, it's unfortunate this fella has planned his hunt in a manner it can be interrupted by his neighbor. Part of hunting is learning to adapt to situations out of your control and still be successful.

I have a good buck on my farm that's feeding in daylight hours In a food plot, 20 yards from my stand that I've been watching since last year. I was pumped for opening day, however I can't hunt there until the wind switches from the east. This is out of my control And there is little I can do but wait for the perfect wind. As once he busts me I won't see him again in daylight at this spot. My perfect plan for a opening day trophy with compound was ruined by something as simple as the wind. Looking at the forecast I may not be able to hunt there until next week.

ohh well I'll hunt my neighbours farms until then.

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Originally Posted by B Wilson

MikePal,

Curious to know why you started this thread?
What was the intended purpose of it?
Is it about expressing your landowner rights?

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Like all threads posted on this forum it is to stimulate discussion and debate...with #55 posts it has done that.

If you don't 'get it' then your not on a forum for the same reasons as allot of us are.

I know my neighbour well enough to know he would surely laugh at the suggestion he call me first so I would alter my routine so he could hunt.. :)

Can't believe I just wasted my time reading all of these posts. I never saw a real reason for it. Your property use it your way, my only thoughts were the dogs chasing the deer on his property, but that was covered off after what 5 pages.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

And she's right...why should she ? I on the other hand ,as a fellow hunter and good sportsman, would make an effort to accommodate him now and again, but it's plain silly to expect me to stop all activity on my farm so I don't disturb his hunt.

edit add: I should note...I talked the wife into going a little early for the walk last night so there was a good hour before sunset, just in case the neighbour was out hunting...

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This is the comment missing from the original post. The farm is a business and as such activities related to it can not be trumped by someone hunting. In the first post you mention only causal dog walks which can be modified if you so wish. The devil is in the details.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

Like all threads posted on this forum it is to stimulate discussion and debate...with #55 posts it has done that.

If you don't 'get it' then your not on a forum for the same reasons as allot of us are.

I know my neighbour well enough to know he would surely laugh at the suggestion he call me first so I would alter my routine so he could hunt.. :)

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I agree that it would be nonsensical to call and ask a neighbor to alter their routine so they could hunt.

I seem to have misread your OP , and that it was an invitation to debate or discuss, especially when your first few rebuttals suggested that anyone not commenting in support of you were lost in a twilight zone... but I do "get it" now