B.C. Wildlife Federation says hunters furious

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Originally Posted by chris lavoie

Logging roads torn out after the loggers are done. In some cases not allowing any motorized vehicles only walking or biking. Being that access was never there to begin with!!!

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Taxpayers have already paid for those roads through grants to the logging industry from OMNR,therefore,taxpayers should have unrestricted use which OntOra and the OFAH are screaming about. For a minute,there,I was wondering if you meant that all outfitters had their own "exclusive" hunting areas. By "exclusive",I mean vast sections of Crown land reserved specifically for outfitters. Don't EVER hold your breathe waiting for that to happen. LOL

Again, those outfitters were there before the roads. They just happen to be within that restricted area. They are already catch and release. Can only have a certain number of beds in a remote camp. Rules they have to follow to enjoy the resources they have for decades.

What rules do you give your personal hunting camp and fellow shanty users??? NONE I bet.

I think the ofah is agreeing to the 1 km or 2km buffer around these lakes for sole use of the outfitters??? we have to adbide by the rules set out by the mnr... if the outfitters dont want to play in the same sandbox with the rest of them they take your pail and go home

Your saying protected?? So someone who has money to spend on a Outfitter should have dibs on these areas? So what you are actually saying is unless you are wealthy you should not be able to hunt in these areas. I have been reading your dribble for several pages now. I think Werner and Sawbill and the others are correct.

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Originally Posted by chris lavoie

The outfitters are only " potentially" harvesting the moose they are allocated, no more. The remote outfitters are scrutinized each year by the OMNR, making sure of not overharvesting.

Again, these remote areas have to be protected from access as they will be easily over harvested.

I am in the industry and believe RESIDENTS SHOULD have priority with adult tags. Locals of the area being first, like it is now!!

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Greatwhite,of course you would agree with them, as you, just like them, are ignorant of the facts!!!

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Originally Posted by mark270wsm

I think the ofah is agreeing to the 1 km or 2km buffer around these lakes for sole use of the outfitters??? we have to adbide by the rules set out by the mnr... if the outfitters dont want to play in the same sandbox with the rest of them they take your pail and go home

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Who elected the OFAH to be the voice and policy maker for Ontario hunters? A 2km buffer is enormous. The only buffer I would give outfitters is 100yds around buildings they own. The land belongs to Ontario's residents.....full stop. If the outfitter actually has deeded ownership then thats different. Crow land is for everybody to use, with equal rights and regulations.

Not at all. I think you are.

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Originally Posted by chris lavoie

I have never done a moose hunt at my place. Never will, don't want to.

The outfitter has LITTLE impact on the moose population. He is happy with the FEW tags he has. None are asking for more.

These shanty's packed full with hunters every half mile will be the demise of the moose hunting here!! Not the outfitter.

Bet there will be big changes in 2015 moose hunt, unfortunately for everyone!!!

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Seems to me even some outfitters disagree with you.

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Originally Posted by chris lavoie

Greatwhite,of course you would agree with them, as you, just like them, are ignorant of the facts!!!

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Originally Posted by terrym

Who elected the OFAH to be the voice and policy maker for Ontario hunters? A 2km buffer is enormous. The only buffer I would give outfitters is 100yds around buildings they own. The land belongs to Ontario's residents.....full stop. If the outfitter actually has deeded ownership then thats different. Crow land is for everybody to use, with equal rights and regulations.

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As I have said before, I believe the MNR and the outfitters work together to control access to crown land that should be available to all hunters in Ontario. These outfitters --- most who are American --- go to with their hand out each spring to the MNR and come away with tags that they turn around and sell to their customers for outrageous prices and then head back to the states each fall. We, the Ontario hunter have to go in a draw each year for a tag that your odds are very low . I think anyone over 40 who draws a tag now will probably never get another in their life time. If we ever got caught selling a tag or even the meat, the MNR would charge us for this.

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Originally Posted by chris lavoie

Again, those outfitters were there before the roads. They just happen to be within that restricted area. They are already catch and release. Can only have a certain number of beds in a remote camp. Rules they have to follow to enjoy the resources they have for decades.

What rules do you give your personal hunting camp and fellow shanty users??? NONE I bet.

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Considering that most are only there for a week,your whining is falling on deaf ears. Ontario belongs to everyone,not just a few outfitters. Any "restrictions" you THINK you have apply only to clients of other outfitters. Resident hunters may access those areas by foot,water or private aircraft.....as it should be. Sorry if that doesn't meet with your approval. Any "competition" from these people are negligible,at best. If you can't handle it,maybe,you should look for other lines of work.