Outfitters Moose Tag Allocation Artifcle

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Originally Posted by chris lavoie

I read somewhere that it is illegal to sell a hunting license for more than what the mnr sells the license for.

If it's illegal turn them in!! It's as simple as that.

Trimmer again is right, "Ignorance is no excuse". But its up to the judge in the final outcome. I've seen many instances where outfitter rightfully pays and the client does not.

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OMNRF doesn't "sell" tags to outfitters. They're issued the tags depending on the number of registered client groups that are staying at the outfitters lodge/resort. The outfitters,themselves,"adjust" their lodging prices upward (a way upward) when clients require a tag to hunt. It doesn't matter whether the clients are resident or non-resident and that's how they "hide" the tag sales,by burying it in the overall price,so,technically,the tag wasn't "sold". I absolutely agree that it's BS,but,OMNRF has let them get away with it for decades.;)

They should reword their package by saying the " Package includes a bull or cow seal" along with the other amenities that are included. There is absolutely no other way to advertise it.

Trimmer, how do you propose the way they should word it. I cant think of another way???

They are selling the adult seal, not the moose license, that's how they get away with it.

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Originally Posted by chris lavoie

The advertiser that has the add above is a Canadian resident and lives in Canada year round. Employs many locals full time. Buys locally and keeps his custumers at local motels and camps pre and post hunt. Our town would be in trouble if he was not here.

Many of their clients spend in the restaurants, gift shops and gas stations.









This same outfitter advertised above also help pay for this forum you are on right now through his add.

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If this advertiser is a friend and it appears he's made an error,you should definitely give him a "heads up". It could save him a whole world of grief down the road. Anyone in business should always have a lawyer on speed dial when iot comes to committing anything to print because when it comes to legalities,one can never unring a bell.

I'm interested in the answer to this question. I'll phone the omnr tomorrow and see if I can get an answer.

Trimmer you are right,

Ontario web site for Non resident moose.

Non residents of Ontario must get a :Validation tag, along with a outdoors card and moose tag, provided FREE OF CHARGE as part of the purchased hunting package.

They can try to hide the cost of the tag if they want. If you want to be sure you're not getting ripped by the outfitter who is charging for a tag, ask what the price is for a hunt if you have your own adult tag and then ask what the cost is with the outfitter tag. If it's different....call the c.o.'s or the Tips line and turn them in. As long as those who do it keep getting away with it, they'll keep ripping off the hunters. There are honest outfitter who do it the right way and provide the tags free of charge. The purpose of the "free" tag is for the outfitter to attract guests who may not otherwise have an adult tag. If the outfitter has no adult tags and their guests don't get adult tags through the draw....the outfitter may sit with empty cabins. The benefit to the outfitter is to be able to possibly fill cabins by providing his guests with the opportunity to hunt an adult moose by giving them the "free" tags. That is the benefit to the outfitter in $$$$. The outfitter that has 10 adult tags and charges guests an additional $500 for the tag makes an additional $5000 on top of the cabin/guide fee that he otherwise wouldn't have if he couldn't attract the guest with an adult tag. They are ripping off the client and breaking the law. If convicted their tag allocation will be suspended for a couple years. If you get an outfitter tag and don't use it.....take it home or destroy it. Don't use it if you're not accommodated at the outfitters. It was issued to you by an application on your behalf by the outfitter.

So what's going on here do ya think? http://www.pashalake.com/ontariohuntingtrippackages.htm

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Originally Posted by rippin_355

So what's going on here do ya think? http://www.pashalake.com/ontariohuntingtrippackages.htm

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Bring you own tag: 399 per week.
Use our archery tag 2999 per two weeks (1500/week).

Archery Moose Hunt - includes up to 2 week cabin rental, archery bull tag and archery cow tag (only available to additional hunters).
*** EXTREMELY POPULAR PACKAGE***
Package Rate is $2999
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Resident Moose Hunting - includes weekly housekeeping cottage - call cabins come complete with 24/7 power, hot/cold running water, modern showers & toilet, linens and full kitchenette to include coffee maker, microwave, range top & oven, pots, pans and all cutlery. Upon request, we will go over WMU #19 & WMU #21A maps to familiarize you and your hunting party with this area.
Per person rate is $349CAN ($399CAN for parties of 3 or less) - minimum occupancy rates apply for 1st and 2nd week of gun season.

The archery moose is for 2 weeks and most likely includes a guide. He just does not have the full package shown. A local guide can get costly but worth while.

He does offer a great plan for residents though. He will provide direction to residents, means a lot!!

Where he goes wrong is when he says residents can use his tags for $2999.00.