Trophy Hunting

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Originally Posted by werner.reiche

I've actually put quite a bit of thought into it....and what I've come up with is that if hunters concede their right to hunt "because we want to", we have lost our right to hunt. As soon as we say "only for predator control", "only for food", etc, if that matter can be addressed otherwise - then why should we be allowed to hunt at all? That is the question you need to answer. As soon as you start putting what other hunters do "out of bounds" you can expect others to do the same to your hunting.

What you are doing by posting here against one segment of hunters (trophy hunts) is employing the anti-hunters divide-and-conquer strategy, so don't expect it to be welcomed here. You're not the first to do it and you won't be the last either. And I think you're going to find that you may provide a bit of distraction for a few days, but in the big picture, it's not going to work.

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We've already lost the ability to hunt various species so I don't see a real.problem with banning the practice of hunting for rugs or racks only.

And let me ask you this. You see any real support in the general public for hunting? You think that massive uproar over the giraffe kill was an anomaly?

Our sport isn't exactly a cute and cuddly poster child. We seem to be losing in the battle of public opinion. We provide a lot of money in certain sectors and that's about the only reason politicians ever side with us.

But if people start screaming too loudly because of idiots like this girl posing with her giraffe, we're going to start to lose.

I'd rather cut off a part of the sport I deem repugnant and make the case for hunting as a viable sustainable resource that has a semi defendable purpose, putting meat on the table.

But that's my opinion, feel free to rebut or ignore it. But last time I checked, we still had free speech in Canada so I'll be damned if you'll shut me up.

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Originally Posted by rfb

We've already lost the ability to hunt various species so I don't see a real.problem with banning the practice of hunting for rugs or racks only.

And let me ask you this. You see any real support in the general public for hunting? You think that massive uproar over the giraffe kill was an anomaly?

Our sport isn't exactly a cute and cuddly poster child. We seem to be losing in the battle of public opinion. We provide a lot of money in certain sectors and that's about the only reason politicians ever side with us.

But if people start screaming too loudly because of idiots like this girl posing with her giraffe, we're going to start to lose.

I'd rather cut off a part of the sport I deem repugnant and make the case for hunting as a viable sustainable resource that has a semi defendable purpose, putting meat on the table.

But that's my opinion, feel free to rebut or ignore it. But last time I checked, we still had free speech in Canada so I'll be damned if you'll shut me up.

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You and peta both.

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Originally Posted by werner.reiche

You and peta both.

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Character assassination. The time honored tactic of people too lazy to think.

It doesn't take much thinking to see you have a peta approach to trophy hunting. That's you, all you, not me.
If you want to take a peta position on something, that's fine - but don't whine when someone calls you out for it.

As far as "character assassination" - you peta posts here are pretty much "character suicide". Don't blame me for what you typed.

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Originally Posted by rfb

I'd rather cut off a part of the sport I deem repugnant and make the case for hunting as a viable sustainable resource that has a semi defendable purpose, putting meat on the table.

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If we cut off every part hunting that some hunting groups "deem repugnant" we are left with what? NOTHING!!!!

Hard to believe you'd post that crap on a hunting and fishing board.

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Originally Posted by werner.reiche

It doesn't take much thinking to see you have a peta approach to trophy hunting. That's you, all you, not me.
If you want to take a peta position on something, that's fine - but don't whine when someone calls you out for it.

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What a load of crap. It's like calling someone a communist back in the days of macarthyism. It's a cheap tactic and the last refuge of someone who doesn't have the balls to debate someone on a level playing field.

I actually respected what you had to say up till this point even if I didn't agree with it. But this is just grade school BS.

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Originally Posted by rfb

Really?? Our ability to keep trophy hunting as a viable option in Africa is going to make or break hunting in Canada?

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Absolutely!

As already stated. In Africa.
Animal is legally harvested.
Meat is consumed.
Head gets hung on the wall should you choose.

In Canada . Poaching aside.

Animal is legally killed.
Meat is consumed.
Head goes on the wall should you choose.

See the difference?

Neither do I!

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Originally Posted by rfb

What a load of crap. It's like calling someone a communist back in the days of macarthyism. It's a cheap tactic and the last refuge of someone who doesn't have the balls to debate someone on a level playing field.

I actually respected what you had to say up till this point even if I didn't agree with it. But this is just grade school BS.

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Nothing wrong with calling a communist a communist.

The point you're missing is that antis dont care WHAT, WHEN, or WHERE you are hunting. Its all the same to them. The giraffe is the same as the whitetail deer. The rest of it is ignorance.

The funds for African hunts go to a variety or soures. They're a source of income for locals (through direct payments or employment). They go to conservation. Other times the animals in question would be killed by the locals anyways as protection of property (crops/livestock). Whats the difference if a guy pays for the privilege to do it or the locals go out and kill it? We've already mentioned the food, too.

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Originally Posted by rfb

We've already lost the ability to hunt various species so I don't see a real.problem with banning the practice of hunting for rugs or racks only.

And let me ask you this. You see any real support in the general public for hunting? You think that massive uproar over the giraffe kill was an anomaly?

Our sport isn't exactly a cute and cuddly poster child. We seem to be losing in the battle of public opinion. We provide a lot of money in certain sectors and that's about the only reason politicians ever side with us.

But if people start screaming too loudly because of idiots like this girl posing with her giraffe, we're going to start to lose.

I'd rather cut off a part of the sport I deem repugnant and make the case for hunting as a viable sustainable resource that has a semi defendable purpose, putting meat on the table.

But that's my opinion, feel free to rebut or ignore it. But last time I checked, we still had free speech in Canada so I'll be damned if you'll shut me up.

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I'm not sure what your talking about in regards to public opinion either. Hunting is gaining in popularity across NA, not diminishing. There will always be those who are against it, but recognition and approval as definitely up from 10 years ago.