Liberal view of the world

Yes yes I know Gord, they must be wrong.

Shame for you Moodys, SP, Fitch, Don Drummond, and more all, ALL agree with the Frasier and the proof is in the pudding if you would just open your eyes. Funny that.

Growth in the Sunshine list ( Not speaking about that magical 100k number) but simply the growth in the past X years. What are you oblivious to facts?

Here you go Gord, or Kicking Frog. Read a few of them and.....think before you leap.
http://www.bing.com/search?q=growth+...conversationid=

Does the FACT the province is screaming for cash escape you?
Does the FACT they have NO money for raises or XYZ escape you?
Does the fact they feel they need to sell Hydro One escape you?
Does the fact they are raising taxes AND fees escape you
Does the fact most people pay between 45% and 50% of their income to taxes escape you? You know so called "tax freedom day" escape you?


no substance Kicking Frog?

Gee Gord don't they take in 120,000,000,000 every year?
Where does it go Gord?
Can you read a balance sheet or budget?
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Not enough?
Like seriously good god. Straight from the horses mouths guys
http://www.fin.gov.on.ca/en/consulta...sion/oris.html

I must be just rambling right Kicking Frog?

Then please explain why Ms Wynne campaigned on and feels Ontarians (those who don't have pensions) need her ORP and why she feels she needs to tax employers and employees 2% each.


Or care to explain why the FEDS are raising the age to 67 from 65 and why CPP sustainability is such a big issue...OR XYZ.

like for F sakes you guys live in denial and cant think your way out of wet paper bags if there is a thousand things out there (don't any of you read any news?) and isn't it funny how all you have is baseless accusations yourself and cant put up any articles, charts, studies anything that support your attacks except your say so
lmao want to talk rambling without substance?.
Look in the mirror

Don't let facts get in your way.

Its not me saying it, all I do is repeat whats out there.
What the likes of Moodys has to say
S and P
Fitch
Others

scream and yell all you like, take your weak arsed snipes all you like without any back up. Shame theres sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much I can link, use as supporting arguments in about 5 seconds.

And when the things you can see with your own eyes, mirror the things the likes of Moodys has to say.......

No substance Kicking Frog?

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...service=mobile

And now perhaps I should link one of a million reports/articles/studies on the needs for people to save for retirement in case you have lived somewhere other than earth the past 8-10 years?

By all means link some reports that rebut just a couple I've posted for you.

Boomers Gord? Lots has been written about them.
http://www.bing.com/search?q=Boomers...conversationid=

You guys are too much. Maybe instead of trying to pick fights and not pausing long enough to think . At least have something first? At least something that might be presented to "rebut" say

just this, and understand. I don't write things, I just read them and debate, attack that rather than me or is that all you have?. So when you "attack" me your really ridiculing and saying you know better than.


And do note, the time stamp on this. AKA TODAY.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...p-in-borrowing

Now Gord by all means
Link a few things that debunks the stuff the Fraser has said. Understand that while many are right wing, they are still respected economist, so find some that say the Fraseer is off their rockers and do understand when Moodys and more parallels all the things they say.........,

And lastly.

Do note I specifically used a Globe and Mail article. Not sure they are "left" but does anyone here want to dispute they aren't atleast "balanced"... Do you see them discrediting the Fraser? And they ain't the Sun so saying well the Sun and Fraser..., I hope you read enough news to know that at least.

Another interesting read for you guys.
http://www.benefitscanada.com/pensio...retirees-45291

Another
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bank...erts-1.3154931

another

Quote:

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Namely, the survey results indicate Millennials aren’t just whining when they say they have fewer economic opportunities than their parents (and, in some cases, grandparents). Baby Boomers believe it, too. Indeed the older generation (between 50 and 65 years old) appears even more uneasy about a future of precarious, low-benefit work and what that will mean for themselves and their children.
The poll found Boomers are far more likely to think their children will slip in economic class than Millennials when asked about their future economic status; and about half (49 per cent) of Boomers believe economic opportunities are worse for their children than when they were young.
The majority of Boomers fear, too, that their children’s generation won’t be able to raise the tax revenue to pay for social programs they will need in retirement.

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https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/blogs/i...191401297.html


Ok guys, in about 5 minutes Ive provided you with enough reading to last you atleast a day, maybe more.

Im waiting

LOL fantastic !

Ever see a dog chase it's tail so long that it sits down because it forgot why it was chasing its tail?

Sorry for the slow response time. I was at work and then spending our money that the government gave back to us so we'll vote for them in a few months. Shoulda had a few more kids.

:)

Here's the thing KF, and I'm at a loss. Rather than "attacking me" or anyone for that matter.

If you disagree with the likes Don Drummond, Moody's,SP, Fitch, Fraser,commerce board, or the CEO of Fiat recently and other companies who are refusing to invest here because.......if you disagree with many more...



If you disagree with any of the above related things, thats taxation/housing food, or pensions and people not having enough ( I don't know doesn't Ms Wynne agree but she wants only some to pony 4% and not all wasn't it you that said we are all in the same boat?? What gives?). Not a bad deal that eh, the peons pony up for the massively expensive DBPs (that EVERYONE knows need to be reformed) but not everyone for the peons ORPP.

I don't know do you disagree that with Hydro exploding, taxes going up, and that the peons (statistically proven) families with AVERAGE annual DUO incomes of 75,000 who ALREADY don't have pensions, don't have enough saved, will find it easier finding 2 nickels?

Do you disagree with what Boomers are going to do and that article I linked for you? And google search with hundreds more?

Why don't you try "attacking" the statistics with your own counters than form the basis for your "opinion". You still haven't come up with any what was it you said……substance?

By all means
Refute the growth in say the SS list or just the growth (40% to 11%)
Refute with statistics or other any number of related things.
Refute raises and what not out of touch with the cost of living (inflation)


Refute closed doors meetings with union heads, or the OPP, or how McGuinty bought the Unions following Rae/Harris

Refute the campaign funds Unions spend or working families.....

And my isn't it funny how the only time they came close to losing was 2011 when he showed a little back bone and tried to stand up to them, it was so close they decided they needed to flush 1.1 billion to save 5 seats in the GTA.

Just substantiated facts.....I know, I'm sorry.

I don't attack "you", all I ask for if your going to, is for a little um substance.

Aka don't tell me, show me. Your little snide and flippant comments really only demonstrate…you got nothing (take that a couple ways if you want). And maybe "next" time you'll learn the art of debate/discussion and rather than going after the messengers, by all means.

Show us why the Fraser institute is wrong, or why Moodys is wrong or where the 120 billion they spend every year is going and why the massive debt they've piled on……or XYZ

Don't shoot the messengers, or those who are really only repeating…or can see with their own eyes….and have a little substance and you know……