CBC talks about firearms - fear mongering 101

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by MikePal

The military does consider a 'Sniper' as someone who has special qualifications.

---

The military does many things, but it is not responsible for prescribing the meanings of English words.

Words are defined by their usage. This word is used outside the military, and in these uses, it does not denote a person with special qualifications; it denotes a person who does a thing, i.e., a person who snipes.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/sniper
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sniper
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/d...english/sniper
http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dic...english/sniper
http://www.macmillandictionary.com/u...merican/sniper
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us..._english/snipe
http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/sniper

As you can see, the essential sense of "snipe," as a verb, is to shoot at people from a concealed position. The original meaning, since folks seem to want to talk about the original and proper meanings of words, predates modern sniper doctrine by at least 100 years.

To find a definition that made a sniper a qualified specialist, mosquito had to go to Wikipedia. Do I need to explain the difference between Wikipedia editors and dictionary editors? Hint: one role requires nothing more than an Internet connection and a room temperature IQ.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by terrym

I'm sure somebody here can find archived media stories on firearms where they use accurate descriptions of firearms and don't erroneously use terms like "automatic", assault weapon right? And they never have misrepresented any of the handling and storage laws right? No liberal has ever publicly stated that nobody needs semiautomatic guns?

---

If you feel you had enough proof before, why exasperate the problem by inventing a situation where there was none?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by welsh

The military does many things, but it is not responsible for prescribing the meanings of English words.

Words are defined by their usage. This word is used outside the military, and in these uses, it does not denote a person with special qualifications; it denotes a person who does a thing, i.e., a person who snipes.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/sniper
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sniper
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/d...english/sniper
http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dic...english/sniper
http://www.macmillandictionary.com/u...merican/sniper
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us..._english/snipe
http://www.ldoceonline.com/dictionary/sniper

As you can see, the essential sense of "snipe," as a verb, is to shoot at people from a concealed position. The original meaning, since folks seem to want to talk about the original and proper meanings of words, predates modern sniper doctrine by at least 100 years.

To find a definition that made a sniper a qualified specialist, mosquito had to go to Wikipedia. Do I need to explain the difference between Wikipedia editors and dictionary editors? Hint: one role requires nothing more than an Internet connection and a room temperature IQ.

---

You seem rather dismissive of the group that doesn't agree with you... is your temperature OK? Having hot flashes?

sniper (ˈsnaɪpə )
Definitions
noun

• a rifleman who fires from a concealed place, esp a military marksman who fires from cover usually at long ranges at individual enemy soldiers

snip·er

(snī′pər)n.1. A skilled military shooter detailed to spot and pick off enemy soldiers from a concealed place


Some of the contemporary definitions seem to have denigrated to the Hollywood interpretation sadly.


Then there is

snipe (snaɪp )
Definitions
noun
Word forms: plural snipe snipes

• any of various birds of the genus Gallinago (or Capella) and related genera, such as G. gallinago (common or Wilson's snipe), of marshes and river banks, having a long straight bill: family Scolopacidae (sandpipers, etc), order Charadriiformes
• any of various similar related birds, such as certain sandpipers and curlews

so of course the other version of sniper....

(intransitive) to hunt or shoot snipe

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by mosquito

http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/t...arms-1.3521141

Summary
There are almost a billion guns in world today. Every year more than 12 billion bullets are produced. That's almost enough to kill every person on earth. Twice.

Worldwide, 300,000 people are shot dead each year. Many more, of course, are injured.

The numbers involved in the trade are staggering:

• The global pistol and revolver trade more than tripled in value between 2003 and 2013.
  
• UN data indicates that by 2013 almost 31 million firearms and parts were being traded by 94 countries worldwide.
  
• In one year alone, the U.S. imported about $800 million worth of guns from around the world and exported a further $400 million.
  
• Over 98 million firearms were sold by Americans, to Americans between 1986 and 2010.

Transcript from the radio
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/t...22019#segment3

---

Hmmmm... so 12,000,000,000 bullets killed 300,000 people.... I wonder how many were executions, in war etc., I wonder if those killed by ISIL count? So ..... CBC thinks that's enough bullets to kill everyone twice but 12B/300K would be 40,000 so it actually takes 40,000 to kill one person based on their concept about each bullet ...... not alot of snipers I guess. Or maybe the snipers need more Browning BLRs ?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by terrym

I'm sure somebody here can find archived media stories on firearms where they use accurate descriptions of firearms and don't erroneously use terms like "automatic", assault weapon right? And they never have misrepresented any of the handling and storage laws right? No liberal has ever publicly stated that nobody needs semiautomatic guns?

---

The Liberals have said several times S-223, S233, Resolution 151, resolution 42 that we don't need semi-autos.

https://www.ofah.org/downloads/PDF/N...s42Hotline.pdf

Liberal Party of Canada’s Resolution #42
WHEREAS automatic and semiautomatic weapons are illegal
for hunting purposes; and
WHEREAS automatic and semi automatic weapons do not
support the hunting culture found in all parts of Canada;
BE IT RESOLVED that the Liberal Party of Canada urges the
Government of Canada to support legislation to eliminate the
personal use of automatic and semi automatic weapons.
National Women’s Liberal Commission Liberal Party of Nova Scotia

A Browning as a serious sniper rifle? More like a firearm of opportunity and a lucky shot.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by skypilot

A Browning as a serious sniper rifle? More like a firearm of opportunity and a lucky shot.

---

Oooohhh........you must be related to Gilroy to stir it up like that. :scream:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by mosquito

You seem rather dismissive of the group that doesn't agree with you... is your temperature OK? Having hot flashes?

---

And there's the gendered attack, right on schedule.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by mosquito

Hmmmm... so 12,000,000,000 bullets killed 300,000 people.... I wonder how many were executions, in war etc., I wonder if those killed by ISIL count? So ..... CBC thinks that's enough bullets to kill everyone twice but 12B/300K would be 40,000 so it actually takes 40,000 to kill one person based on their concept about each bullet ...... not alot of snipers I guess. Or maybe the snipers need more Browning BLRs ?

---

What does this have to do with anything?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by mosquito

The Liberals have said several times S-223, S233, Resolution 151, resolution 42 that we don't need semi-autos.

---

What does this have to do with the question at hand?

Are you off your meds?

But....but...a bi pod on a lever action? I just can't get over that.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SongDog

But....but...a bi pod on a lever action? I just can't get over that.

---

Makes two of us.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by SongDog

But....but...a bi pod on a lever action? I just can't get over that.

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by smallgamer

Makes two of us.

---

...............or the threaded muzzle,either.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by terrym

Oooohhh........you must be related to Gilroy to stir it up like that. :scream:

---

Nope. Just know better plus currently own and have owned Brownings and shot many. To quote Browning USA on a BAR accuracy issue "we only guarantee 5" @ 100yds." I said crap I have a Browning 375 H&H that is way better than that. He said "Well you got a good one"

Nobody in the business would knowingly pick a Browning for a sniper rifle regardless of whose definition of sniper you use.

That said, it's not that hard to hit a man at 180m with a scoped rifle. Many here likely sight in at 200 and shoot moose every year at that distance. After all, 10" is 10" inches whether it's a shot on a moose or a head.