Happy Medium rifle for partridge and black bear protection?

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

Here you go..some stats...
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Originally Posted by terrym

And what BS hunting story are you talking about? Nobody said bear attacks were common but do a minimum of research and they do happen. By all means walk around with your spray can. But if you were that one in a million who does get attacked maybe you can yell at the bear and quote "stats" to it. Should work great. You do realize that the stats they use have no idea how many people ,actually spend man hours within bear country as it is virtually impossible to do so, so maybe they aren't quite the resource you think they are. I don't walk around with a gun or a can of spray but have been around enough bears and seen them fight to know what they are capable of.

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I hunt with a gentlemen who has been hunting for 20 years for black bears. He works at a full time job in the fall bear baiting for an outfitter and probably runs 30 baits. He tells me that he goes into every bait without a gun. So i think i will actually listen and take advice from a professional bear outfitter. His advice is take in bear spray. He hunts in Thunder bay which is thick with bears. So i only relaying advice from a professional bear guide. Do you guide bears for a living??? He has been buff charged and walked into baits with a cub only and knew not to stick around. Again stats and professional bear outfitters are providing that advice.

And I know a guy who has done it his whole life also who always carries a shotgun. He has good reasons. I have watched bears fight over a garbage bag in a dump and it is something to see, had to shoot one climbing into my tree stand and will just let you boys carry the spray and leave it at that. Enjoy your weekend.

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Originally Posted by pbonura

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Did notice that....just a link to a NG piece. Have to go home to fix it I think.

Yes, people do get attacked by bears.

People also get struck by lightning. And that's something people take a few commonsense precautions to avoid, without getting wrapped around the axle over it.

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Originally Posted by welsh

Yes, people do get attacked by bears.

People also get struck by lightning. And that's something people take a few commonsense precautions to avoid, without getting wrapped around the axle over it.

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Yes dont stand outside during a storm, wear bear spray and when driving use a seat belt. I just do not think you need to carry a gun every time we work outside our door inn bear country and stats and studies and people who soend time in bear country will say that.

I'd say 100 round drum mag for your .22lr. Hope it's a semi so you can just slap the trigger like the rifle man.


I'm all seriousness, I'd just carry your .22. Shoot the charging bear in the face.

Dont think any medium rifle will be good for grouse and bear defense

I baited up to 50 baits for years as well and never carried a firearm. Its too difficult. You are on and off the quad all day long and carrying a firearm, loading and unloading each time , then its usually either slung over your shoulder or in your hands--it still doesn't come up that easily.
You can see where a stream of bear spray goes but you would have no idea where a snap shot with a rifle/shotgun ends up. Now you probably have to get off a second shot....
I'm convinced that the large can of spray is better than a rifle any day.

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Originally Posted by sawbill

I baited up to 50 baits for years as well and never carried a firearm. Its too difficult. You are on and off the quad all day long and carrying a firearm, loading and unloading each time , then its usually either slung over your shoulder or in your hands--it still doesn't come up that easily.

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Which goes to the point that the most effective defence is the one in your hands ... if you have to unsling a firearm, you're too slow. That's why they sell holsters for the spray ... if it's in your pack you might as well not be carrying it.

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Originally Posted by sawbill

I baited up to 50 baits for years as well and never carried a firearm. Its too difficult. You are on and off the quad all day long and carrying a firearm, loading and unloading each time , then its usually either slung over your shoulder or in your hands--it still doesn't come up that easily.
You can see where a stream of bear spray goes but you would have no idea where a snap shot with a rifle/shotgun ends up. Now you probably have to get off a second shot....
I'm convinced that the large can of spray is better than a rifle any day.

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Thanks. Best advice from an actual bear outfitter.