Janetville area turkey hunting ... help please

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Originally Posted by I_cant_fish

there are definitely a lot of uneducated opinions and statements flying around that are way over the top . Don't be mad at the outdoorsman be angry with the law.... take a deep breath first.... then ya... be angry

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Your opinion happens to be the minority here.

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Originally Posted by genec

You obviously have a "Northener" attitude that is NOT ACCEPTABLE in Southern Ontario, and if you think otherwise, you ARE going to be a problem for every other southern hunter.
Private land is just that - PRIVATE!
Don't try to B.S. around that concept by claiming its okay if unposted!
According to your logic, if you don't post the yard around your house, its okay for me to come on your yard and shoot something - its not posted, so that's legal!

If you can't understand this, and can't work within this concept, then you need to move back north!
As Onelessarrow stated, too much chance for accidents, as well as creating negative landowner feelings for us all!

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Fortunately the same laws apply whether you are a "northerner" or not. With such a strong opinion from the southerners who think they are the majority, I'm surprised the elected representatives haven't update the laws to reflect these opinions..... oh wait, maybe it's just an opinion of a minority on here and doesn't really reflect the public thoughts on what a good responsible landowner would do (ie post the land if you don't want people on it)

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Originally Posted by dmichel

Fortunately the same laws apply whether you are a "northerner" or not. With such a strong opinion from the southerners who think they are the majority, I'm surprised the elected representatives haven't update the laws to reflect these opinions..... oh wait, maybe it's just an opinion of a minority on here and doesn't really reflect the public thoughts on what a good responsible landowner would do (ie post the land if you don't want people on it)

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You're failing to acknowledge that "legal" does not necessarily mean "acceptable". Even if it is legal to hunt unless otherwise posted, it doesn't make it right. The concept of hunting someone's land just because it isn't posted is morally wrong and irresponsible. I can use these words because the OP knows 100% that the land is private (MNRF crown land atlas confirms all of the land around The town in question is privately owned) yet he's playing stupid and hunting because "it's not posted".

Legal or not, if the land owner comes running out to boot his behind off the property you can forget the owner ever granting a hunter permission in the future. I'm sure the "but sir, your land isn't posted" arguement won't fly. Let alone the safety issues already outlined... its just stupid. We already know his mind is made up and what his intentions are. I just hope he doesn't mentor any young hunters in the future.

I'd be very careful about trying to hunt on "unassumed" roads down here. Due to population density, most are considered roadways under the FWCA and you'll be charged by a CO if they find you on it, or shooting across it with a loaded firearm. If it's a open road allowance that means you only have a 66 foot band, then you're trespassing on someone's private property. The local COs here use the ATV as a rule. If an ATV uses the unassumed road as a trail, then it's not legal to have a loaded gun on it.

The BEST thing you could do is start knocking on doors and building relationships with local farmers. Once you get a bad rep for being a trespasser, you can forget about getting permission anywhere. Word travels fast in this area. Most farmers know each other, and spread the word quick. Prove to a few that you aren't that guy that will just walk in anywhere they feel like and wreck hunts for people with permission, and piss off landowners, and you might get somewhere. Worst that can happen is you get a NO.....and I have gone back on properties that gave me a NO, and got a yes after keeping the relationship up.

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As a new Hunter myself i find this thread incredibly hard to read.. you state that you aren't that kind of guy to go around knocking on doors or putting hard work in to gain access to land, I began hunting in November of 2016 and within the first two weeks i had property to hunt on by asking some farmers just north of the city i live in.. none of them wanted me to help out with the farm but rather to respect the land, not leave any trash and only bring people approved by the land owner to hunt. I don't quite understand whats so difficult about putting in some time like everybody else has done to gain the ability to hunt legally and respectfully on somebody's property. Hopefully the bad karma you're creating for yourself doesn't effect any innocent by standers around you.

this is painful... what a punk...

This thread made me look up where Janetville Ont is. I'm happy to report its several hundred KM's from where I hunt so I won't have to worry about this... lol

I guess I better go to the local hardware store and buy some no trespassing signs for my farm, I never really thought this problem existed until now. I've never seen anyone trespass on my place except for the time when my neighbour's donkey made its way back there. Hopefully the signs will prevent any other jackasses trying to make their way on my private property.

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Originally Posted by mtaz

I guess I better go to the local hardware store and buy some no trespassing signs for my farm, I never really thought this problem existed until now. I've never seen anyone trespass on my place except for the time when my neighbour's donkey made its way back there. Hopefully the signs will prevent any other jackasses trying to make their way on my private property.

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Yeah that's a good idea if you want to be aligned with the law. Hope you enjoy the southern attitudes around you.

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