ON Conservative Issue #1 - Patrick Brown accused of sexual misconduct

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Originally Posted by seabast

And btw, I really hope the same type of allegation happen to M. Scheer. That guy sucks!

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Your feelings on how a person does their job should not invite an accusation like this on that person. Accusations like this destroy careers, families and lives on both sides whether the accuser is telling the truth or not.

Brown says he intends to clear his name because these allegations are false but the damage has already been done. I hope the truth comes out one way or another.

I don't know if what these women are saying is true or not but I hope these allegations are false. Not because of any allegance to a political party. I hope these allegations are false because if they are true, another two young women will have been the subjects of unwanted sexual advances by their boss, yet again.

Dyth

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Originally Posted by Dythbringer

Your feelings on how a person does their job should not invite an accusation like this on that person. Accusations like this destroy careers, families and lives on both sides whether the accuser is telling the truth or not.

Brown says he intends to clear his name because these allegations are false but the damage has already been done. I hope the truth comes out one way or another.

I don't know if what these women are saying is true or not but I hope these allegations are false. Not because of any allegance to a political party. I hope these allegations are false because if they are true, another two young women will have been the subjects of unwanted sexual advances by their boss, yet again.

Dyth

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You are correct and I apologize.

My point was, it seems to only thing to kick him out and get someone that has a chance.

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Originally Posted by seabast

You are correct and I apologize.

My point was, it seems to only thing to kick him out and get someone that has a chance.

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I understand your point about kicking inept politicians out but I have seen first hand what a untrue allegation of sexual assault can do to a person and I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

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Originally Posted by yellow dog

I'm not a big fan of Sheer as well and hope that Pierre Poilievre would jump into the ring. He seems to have the brains and stamina to go up against the Liberal liars club.

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It's a huge mistake selling Andrew Sheer short. He's been a Parliamentarian and former Speaker of the House for a very long time making him an excellent,veteran,savvy politician well-qualified to lead the CPC. Not much gets passed him and he won't suffer fools gladly. That's what is needed to counter the Liberals and their nonsense.
Now,having said that,let's get back on topic and not confuse provincial and federal politics,shall we?

Its becoming hard to believe there is nobody who has skeletons in their closet. What may have been acceptable back in the day is not acceptable today but with sexual assault allegations it seems there is no time limit--especially with politicians.
When you look at American politics it seems sexual relations of some sort are the norm and acceptable--right up to presidents.

I hope Brown's anonymous accusers are prepared for their legal bills. I wonder if whoever put them up to coming forward will have their backs? It not looking like there's anything criminal here, but with his career ruined Brown is sure to hit them hard in civil court for defamation. What we know about their stories so far strikes me as the sort of thing that would crumble under cross examination. Brown may turn out to be a creep, but that can be a long way from harassment or assault.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

It's a huge mistake selling Andrew Sheer short. He's been a Parliamentarian and former Speaker of the House for a very long time making him an excellent,veteran,savvy politician well-qualified to lead the CPC. Not much gets passed him and he won't suffer fools gladly. That's what is needed to counter the Liberals and their nonsense.
Now,having said that,let's get back on topic and not confuse provincial and federal politics,shall we?

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Agree but do not think he has what it takes to go up against the Liberals from what i have witnessed. He is too nice, wishy washy rosy cheeked, where as Poilievre jumps right into the ring going head to head showing no mercy. That's what we need to stand up to the Liberals.

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Originally Posted by yellow dog

Agree but do not think he has what it takes to go up against the Liberals from what i have witnessed. He is too nice, wishy washy rosy cheeked, where as Poilievre jumps right into the ring going head to head showing no mercy. That's what we need to stand up to the Liberals.

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Perhaps, but the perception of an angry white guy is also what turns away many women and undecided voters.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned this,yet,but,doesn't it concern anyone that with this unproven allegation,this man's career and very likely his public life are instantly over? Put yourselves in his position for a second and,let's face it,any one of us of a certain age could find ourselves in that situation. Think!

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Absolutely ! career ruined and disgraced without any due process whatsoever. That was the basic premise of the NP article, I see that I messed up the link the first time and just fixed it, good read

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Originally Posted by 73hunter

Perhaps, but the perception of an angry white guy is also what turns away many women and undecided voters.

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Actually Poilievre has a lot of women supporters and have noticed people saying he should have more of a leadership role . He isn't anywhere near a Thomas Mulcair angry white male and far more intelligent.