Finally some common sense on gun control.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Thankfully, the Trudeau government has committed to a “fact-based” approach to law-making so confidence is high that this will all get worked out.

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What? "fact based" and "Trudeau government" used in the same sentence? Now,that's a new one and that's funny right there.LOL

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Thankfully, the Trudeau government has committed to a “fact-based” approach to law-making so confidence is high that this will all get worked out.

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Removed my previous post - I’ll simply say I disagree. We will wind up worse off than ever as a nation.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

Your lawyer friend gave you excellent advice. Personally,I'd rather use a Louisville Slugger instead of a firearm,anyway. I was always more afraid of the "intruder" being one of the kids coming in late trying to be "quiet".

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Your comments are on the money.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

What? "fact based" and "Trudeau government" used in the same sentence? Now,that's a new one and that's funny right there.LOL

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https://firearmrights.ca/en/no-virtu...ublic-on-guns/


Canadian Coalition For Firearms Rights has it right at the end of this article,so I guess it must be right,right?

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Armed robbers would be the most dangerous type of criminal a citizen would have to face and for the majority of times our armed and trained police do a good job.Armed citizen,s would present more of a danger to themselves and other members of the public it they took on a armed criminal as most of them do not have the training or presence of mind.

I imagine you being one of those who think we should arm all our school kids with fully auto AR15,s just in case there is a mass shooter.The school kids are all soft targets,the solution is not to arm the whole school or is it in your mind?

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You would be incorrect. I think arming school kids with fully automatic firearms is a terrible idea (the fact the AR-15 is not fully automatic firearm is something you have been told repeatedly but still don't seem to understand). I don't think arming teachers is a good idea either. However, an adult shooter, who has proven themselves to society not to be a danger and who can handle a firearm safely and effectively, should be able to use any semi-automatic firearm for any lawful activity or even in defense if circumstances warrant it.

I am not talking about schools. In your example I quoted, your two examples used someone's home and that is what I am referring to. Schools are the softest of targets but don't receive the number of break-ins that homes do. Perhaps what you should have said was high value soft targets.

I dislike the banhammer for anything. Bringing out the banhammer for the firearm to deal with the issues in the US is dealing with the symptom and not the problem.

I disagree with you that armed citizens are more of a danger to themselves and other members of the public. The police have the police service act to help protect them with their duties. If their job dictates the necessity of a sidearm/rifle discharge to protect the public, the police have legal protection in most circumstances. Armed citizens have no such legal protection so they have to be more cautious if they ever need to protect themselves.

An adult shooter who had proved himself to society not to be a danger and who could handle firearms safely and effectively have been able TIME AND TIME again to obtain guns and kill people,schools,movies,Las Vagas..... I believe a AR 15 can be converted to fully auto by use of a bump stock?
They banned guns in Australia to an extent and seem to have solved their mass shooting problems.It can be done.Have you heard about mass shootings in Scotland since Dunblaine?

Actually you don't need a bump stock with a little practice you can do it with your bare hands.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

An adult shooter who had proved himself to society not to be a danger and who could handle firearms safely and effectively have been able TIME AND TIME again to obtain guns and kill people,schools,movies,Las Vagas..... I believe a AR 15 can be converted to fully auto by use of a bump stock?
They banned guns in Australia to an extent and seem to have solved their mass shooting problems.It can be done.Have you heard about mass shootings in Scotland since Dunblaine?

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

An adult shooter who had proved himself to society not to be a danger and who could handle firearms safely and effectively have been able TIME AND TIME again to obtain guns and kill people,schools,movies,Las Vagas..... I believe a AR 15 can be converted to fully auto by use of a bump stock?
They banned guns in Australia to an extent and seem to have solved their mass shooting problems.It can be done.Have you heard about mass shootings in Scotland since Dunblaine?

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And what about all the other adult shooters who have never killed people. Why do they never factor into your thinking? You know the massive majority of people who own firearms. The way you always talk, you expect us to off the rails at any time. In fact, since you think firearm owners are untrustworthy, I expect you to go down to your local police station and hand in your firearms for destruction because we can't trust you not to go off the rails.

Bump stock is an after market addition. Using something like that to make a semi-automatic into an automatic is akin to sawing off a shotgun. Legal firearm owners who follow the law wouldn't be doing that.

Sigh. Australia again huh? Still beating that drum. So the Australian public just turned in 57 000 firearms under an amnesty program. Alot of them were pistol grip. Since your premise has always been the banning of those firearms has solved their mass shooting problems, why weren't there any mass shootings with those firearms during the period between 1996 and the amnesty program?

Hey Dyth!
Gilroy-??? just likes to hear himself talk, or see himself in print.

" Has A Narcissist Bent To Be Heard In The Cacophony Of The Media "-- author unknown.

Gilroy did you know that most of Finland, Norway, Switzerland is armed