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December 23rd, 2018, 12:14 PM
ninepointer

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Originally Posted by Fenelon

Some biologists in both peterborough and minden/bancroft districts should have been fired in 2013-14 on the grounds of being totally incompetant as wildlife managers. They ignored their own Owsi data and continued to issue ridiculous amounts of antlerless tags when their own data clearly showed there was a catostrophic total loss of the fawn crop both years. The second December hunts should never have happened in the following years and the antlerless tags should have been cut by 80% for at least a two year period. Makes me wonder why they even bother running the provincial snow courses if they're not using the data to make management decisions. A waste of taxpayers dollars to even send a tech out weekly to collect the data. I have pretty much zero trust in mnr to manage the resource in a responsible manner. It shouldn't come as any surprise that the north end of 75, all of 56 and 60 are deserts for deer. The idiots in charge of managing the resource are asleep at the wheel. Get your doe tag next year and put it on a buck only.

You're bang on, Fenelon. After the 2013 & 2014 winters we were certain than antlerless tags would be significantly cut. After all, EVERYBODY could see that the deer population had been decimated. But the tags kept coming like nothing happened. I too wonder what the MNRF does with winter severity index data and with deer hunter questionnaire data. Its certainly not being applied to year-to-year management decisions.
December 23rd, 2018, 12:47 PM
longpointer

Interesting reports. I know a guy[ newbie hunter] that owns 200 acres with a lovely cottage on it up around Huntsville area and he was told by locals that there was no deer because of wolves. I was going to call B.S. on that because locals just want to shoot his property.... LoL ! Now he's hinting at joining my gang down here in 90B. Bigger problem is I rent the property off his in-laws and have no room for a new guy.
January 28th, 2019, 12:06 PM
hunt guy

Have been on this forum for a bunch of years.
Thought I would register as a member and hope to contribute.

Took a drive down some of the roads in the deer yards over the weekend.
Saw a few deer but not the numbers from a few years ago.

Snow is about 3 foot deep with many layers of hard crust.

The snow has been on the ground since mid November and extreme cold temperatures
Hope to se the weather break so we don't have another repeat of 2013.

HG
January 28th, 2019, 12:36 PM
fratri

Quote:

Originally Posted by hunt guy

Have been on this forum for a bunch of years.
Thought I would register as a member and hope to contribute.

Took a drive down some of the roads in the deer yards over the weekend.
Saw a few deer but not the numbers from a few years ago.

Snow is about 3 foot deep with many layers of hard crust.

The snow has been on the ground since mid November and extreme cold temperatures
Hope to se the weather break so we don't have another repeat of 2013.

HG

Welcome to the forum....in my part of Ontario (South Western portion) it hasn't been that bad, some cold temps but the snow level isn't bad at all. I hope we get an early spring too as it must be tough on the wildlife with these temps and deep snow.....
January 28th, 2019, 12:48 PM
terrym

If I was calling the shots at the MNRF there would be a total shutdown of doe tags in WMU 49 for 5 years. I would also only have a one week season. Our herd has been decimated. They don’t winter feed anymore so either this is the new normal or drastic steps are needed.
January 28th, 2019, 01:06 PM
Species8472

Quote:

Originally Posted by hunt guy

Have been on this forum for a bunch of years.
Thought I would register as a member and hope to contribute.

Took a drive down some of the roads in the deer yards over the weekend.
Saw a few deer but not the numbers from a few years ago.

Snow is about 3 foot deep with many layers of hard crust.

The snow has been on the ground since mid November and extreme cold temperatures
Hope to se the weather break so we don't have another repeat of 2013.

HG

Looking at the forecast it's going to be bad for them this year. 14 day forecast shows only more snow. Had to shovel the snow off the shop roof this weekend - first time in a while. This is in 47 around Restoule and not far from the yards.
January 28th, 2019, 02:23 PM
SongDog

Quote:

Originally Posted by terrym

If I was calling the shots at the MNRF there would be a total shutdown of doe tags in WMU 49 for 5 years. I would also only have a one week season. Our herd has been decimated. They don’t winter feed anymore so either this is the new normal or drastic steps are needed.

Fully agree it's getting sad. I'm not hunting up there anymore as we have been skunked two years in a row, using 3 awesome beagles that couldn't even lift a deer. Cant wait til they ban wolf hunting up here too, make it even harder on the deer in the winter.

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