Private Property blocking access to public land

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Originally Posted by Bushmoose

The OP is asking about access to lakes across private land, not hunting private land. Try to stay on the topic.

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Replying to post, #6 AND your post #12. Try to stay on topic, works both ways.

nice....

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Originally Posted by gbk

Being reasonable on a public land is of NO concern of the owner of the property. It is a concern of appointed Governement bodies(Municipality,MNRF ,Police...whatever).
if those "bad"people TRESPASS from the lake onto his property-then he has all the rights to deal with it.
No different then someone would trespass from any other direction onto his property,and make a mess.

The owners of the property DO PAY taxes for THEIR land,and if that happens to be a lake front-Good on them.They still do not own the lake front(from 20 feet from highest water mark).Tough luck.

As far as your 3-rd point is concerned-I am not offended with any of this. Hovewer I think that whoever (outfitter,rich guy or John Doe)owns whatever, same rules apply to all of them related to -limiting use of a Public Property.
I understand -if they build a road for themselves ,on their property-they rule.
Else is -just a nuisance to deal with (part of the package of ownership)-no different them my backyard or your backyard.

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I am afraid to tell you in the example I gave there is no "20 feet from the high water mark" the lot has been surveyed and the neighbor owns the frontage all around his property. There is a shore allowance owned by the municipality on the south end of the lake.

IMO, landowners pay the taxes on the land they own, so they should be able to keep others off of it...... With that said, IMO the government needs to allow me and every other citizen access to all bodies of public land/water...................... so if that means to buy out (expropriate) enough of the private land to allow a road allowance, so be it.... This would make everyone happy.... Landowners can still post their private land while the rest of us can enjoy crown property. Seems like a win, win to me....but I am sure there would be plenty of greedy private land owners that would not agree....

I'm a land owner that owns the property right to the waters edge. Fortunately the mnr had the fore sight to set aside easement to the lake so that others could access the water system both summer and winter. On the other side of the coin we have had undesirables come in and leave their trash, take over limits and break into camps. All part of today's society.

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Originally Posted by fratri

IMO, landowners pay the taxes on the land they own, so they should be able to keep others off of it...... With that said, IMO the government needs to allow me and every other citizen access to all bodies of public land/water...................... so if that means to buy out (expropriate) enough of the private land to allow a road allowance, so be it.... This would make everyone happy.... Landowners can still post their private land while the rest of us can enjoy crown property. Seems like a win, win to me....but I am sure there would be plenty of greedy private land owners that would not agree....

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Sound's like socialism. The only one's being greedy here would be the freeloaders who are not willing to pay their way to obtain the land in a free market economy. Why would anyone want to buy large acreage around a Lake if everybody and their uncle can waltz in, ride around in ski doo's and fish the place out.

C'mon now Gilly, not everyone can afford the luxury of owning waterfront property. There's thousands upon thousands of low income families and their only form of affordable recreation would be to access a lake and enjoy fishing or camping for a day. Most are appreciative of the chance to do so and do respect the local camp owners.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Sound's like socialism. The only one's being greedy here would be the freeloaders who are not willing to pay their way to obtain the land in a free market economy. Why would anyone want to buy large acreage around a Lake if everybody and their uncle can waltz in, ride around in ski doo's and fish the place out.

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Why such a nasty comment....It is crownland, we should all be able to use/access it... If the local landowners don't like it, they are free to sale and or move on. :)

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Originally Posted by fratri

Why such a nasty comment....It is crownland, we should all be able to use/access it... If the local landowners don't like it, they are free to sale and or move on. :)

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Because on other threads , many on here have said that those who want stuff for free are socialists. Just a taste of their own medicine.

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Originally Posted by fratri

Why such a nasty comment....It is crownland, we should all be able to use/access it... If the local landowners don't like it, they are free to sale and or move on. :)

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I find folk's that use Crown land very generous in giving away the privacy of landowners who foot the bill, I think you would have a much different take if you were the landowner.