Ontario Liberals promise handgun ban if elected

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Originally Posted by Bluebulldog

Not quite.

Look at the crime stats around the Jamestown, and Kingsway Gardens neighborhoods in NW Toronto.

Introduction of a lot of people from the horn of Africa, and yes, violent crime and other offences rose dramatically.

Yes, the Ukrainians aren't really a problem.....I'm pretty sure that wasn't the area he was referring to.

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You would be correct on all accounts with the above statement bluebulldog!!!

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Originally Posted by Bluebulldog

Not quite.

Look at the crime stats around the Jamestown, and Kingsway Gardens neighborhoods in NW Toronto.

Introduction of a lot of people from the horn of Africa, and yes, violent crime and other offences rose dramatically.

Yes, the Ukrainians aren't really a problem.....I'm pretty sure that wasn't the area he was referring to.

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The high stats for crime ANY WHERE in any large city will be higher in marginalized and poorer communities does not matter if its Rio, London, Glasgow......The Irish and Italians in New York and even Toronto committed many more crimes than the average because they were
dirt poor and living in slums. Would people even have to come here from places like Jamaica, Ethiopia, Somalia, if it was not for the centuries
of misappropriation of their national assets by Colonial powers?

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Originally Posted by delmer

That's really the question that needs answering, isn't it? Every kid I grew up with in our rural environment was exposed to guns at an early age. There were no laws dictating safe storage. Yet we just left them alone, unless given parental approval. Somewhere along the way, future generations took a wrong turn.

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Social Media is the problem in my mind. Dad had a gun behind the door at all times; no one touched it, but I wasn't watching violence on tv everyday and reading about violent incidents on social media every day.

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Originally Posted by Sharon

Social Media is the problem in my mind. Dad had a gun behind the door at all times; no one touched it, but I wasn't watching violence on tv everyday and reading about violent incidents on social media every day.

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Can’t blame social media totally. Back then you would likely get your arse warmed up for you when you made those bad decisions not to obey. Today…..not so much !!

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

The high stats for crime ANY WHERE in any large city will be higher in marginalized and poorer communities does not matter if its Rio, London, Glasgow......The Irish and Italians in New York and even Toronto committed many more crimes than the average because they were
dirt poor and living in slums. Would people even have to come here from places like Jamaica, Ethiopia, Somalia, if it was not for the centuries
of misappropriation of their national assets by Colonial powers?

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Well again as being a former Leo as you claim why not go after the perps and thugs who commit these crimes and leave the law abiding ALONE. With what you keep touting the government might as well put on a surcharge penalty with everyone with a driver's license as most speed at one point or time above the posted limit and never get caught so we might as well penalize all drivers. Hell while we're at it booze,dope and vehicles might as well be all banned as well as they all kill more people in this country every year then guns that sounds like a good liberal plan. Let's penalize everyone because a few road apples can't control their actions and obey the laws set down in this country. Cheers.

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Originally Posted by Tigboy 304

Well again as being a former Leo as you claim why not go after the perps and thugs who commit these crimes and leave the law abiding ALONE. With what you keep touting the government might as well put on a surcharge penalty with everyone with a driver's license as most speed at one point or time above the posted limit and never get caught so we might as well penalize all drivers. Hell while we're at it booze,dope and vehicles might as well be all banned as well as they all kill more people in this country every year then guns that sounds like a good liberal plan. Let's penalize everyone because a few road apples can't control their actions and obey the laws set down in this country. Cheers.

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You would think that would be the reasonable response to target the criminals not the law abiding citizens.

That's too hard tho so they pick on the law abiding citizens to say OK we will give you our guns because we are honest law abiding citizens . What about that criminal over there just shut it and give me your gun or you too will be a criminal lol.

Besides how many law abiding citizens are out shooting up the streets. None (ok I edit this the odd one lol.)
More of a domestic thing out of the blue spur of the moment type stuff. Just a small part of a much bigger problem.

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Originally Posted by Tigboy 304

Well again as being a former Leo as you claim why not go after the perps and thugs who commit these crimes and leave the law abiding ALONE. With what you keep touting the government might as well put on a surcharge penalty with everyone with a driver's license as most speed at one point or time above the posted limit and never get caught so we might as well penalize all drivers. Hell while we're at it booze,dope and vehicles might as well be all banned as well as they all kill more people in this country every year then guns that sounds like a good liberal plan. Let's penalize everyone because a few road apples can't control their actions and obey the laws set down in this country. Cheers.

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If you ever watch main stream media you will actually see arrest's every day for gun offences involving mostly gangs in big cities like Toronto.
Booze and dope are already covered in law. So they do go after these suspects and do make arrests, you can go to this link if you would like to keep up with updates from the guns and gangs task force and this is just one of them nationwide.Cheers.

https://www.torontopolice.on.ca/gunandgang/

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Originally Posted by fishfood

You would think that would be the reasonable response to target the criminals not the law abiding citizens.

That's too hard tho so they pick on the law abiding citizens to say OK we will give you our guns because we are honest law abiding citizens . What about that criminal over there just shut it and give me your gun or you too will be a criminal lol.

Besides how many law abiding citizens are out shooting up the streets. None (ok I edit this the odd one lol.)
More of a domestic thing out of the blue spur of the moment type stuff. Just a small part of a much bigger problem.

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see post 67.

G , do you honestly believe banning hand guns in Ontario targeting lawful owners, because you know the ones with illegal hand guns won't turn them in will make a difference in gun violence committed with hand guns. Would you not think that money could be used in a better way i.e. Boosting border security, jail time,if even caught with an illegal hand gun, or an assault rifle... etc.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

see post 67.

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I am not assisting them they have that job.

Then what happens after their investigation ? Fast bail turn around back and armed again with a few hours. There is no deterrent so it just keeps happening.


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