Here is a link to a very interesting and informative article on ethanol added fuel ;http://www.alloutdoor.com/2013/06/25...tboard-motors/
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Here is a link to a very interesting and informative article on ethanol added fuel ;http://www.alloutdoor.com/2013/06/25...tboard-motors/
[QUOTE=400bigbear;769255]Nice and slow just so you read your own post Jeff. Your post ..Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffBondar
I'm glad you're finally done because you're twisting words, making bad assumptions, sideways arguments and still not getting what I'm saying...Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffBondar
You keeping wasting you're money on 91, it's your money to do what you wish. There are 100+million cars in North America not including boats, bikes, and small engines that run on nothing but an ethanol blended 87 octane, think of the horrible tragedy....
But of course, you are right....
You wrote it I didn't Jeff so no twisting or anything is necessary . Why don't you read Jaycees link and they're hundreds of others out there . Be sure to forward them to the great mechanic from Georgetown . I'm just trying to help with sound advice . Run your 87 ethanol . I don't care . I don't just joyride when I put fuel in my tanks . It can be a matter of life or death .
TD
Life and death...lol. certainly lost all credibility with that one. What a joke. Are we done now. ..Quote:
Originally Posted by 400bigbear
Yes Jeff . I get off the beaten trail year round and no cell phone towers so it's true . The one time I had to row a boat 16 miles going up river while the person with me was headed into a coma for lack of insulin . Could have used that motor that always ran but quit because of crap gas . Ask any hunter or trapper what its like being stranded way back in the bush by yourself or finding someone injured . It can be life or death . Definately not a joke .Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffBondar
TD
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Originally Posted by 400bigbear
Been there and don't ever want it to happen again.
I use this good for health and soul.
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What a loaded question! I'll chime in like anyone else.
Gotta be a Polaris, there are none tougher, I have tried to break them since I was a kid and failed every time. I currently drive a Ranger 500 EFI and I cannot believe how easy this thing is to operate. I am an outfitter so I use things VERY rough. In Spring I turkey hunt with it and haul clients way back in the woods safely and quickly. All summer and into the fall I load bear baits every afternoon, I deer hunt with it. It hauls my outfitter trailer full of goose decoys, blinds and guns no problem through the fields we're are not allowed to drive the truck in. I ice fish with it and it starts with ease when it is -25C. I cut wood with it and haul out massive amounts very quickly with the dump box. I used to hate side by sides when I was younger but now I have fallen in love with our Polaris Ranger. I should have upgraded our Sportsman 400 sooner!
Sorry Jeff, but I agree with BigBear on the fuel issue. This is based on having to speak/deal directly with mech. factory contacts at Echo, Jonsered, Stihl, Honda, Yamaha, Bombardier, Yanmar, Bobcat, Vermeer, etc. etc. for the fleet of equipment we have at my work ( we run and operate a big boat fleet, over 90 chainsaws, brush saws, ATVs, UTVs, snowmobiles, chippers, etc. ) , and also from my personal experiences at home.
Even the 10% ethanol fuel is bad news for pretty much all small engines. At work - as soon as environmental/emissions standards changed and tolerances got tighter on the carbs, we saw a big effect. Chainsaws were the worst - reg gas with 10% ETOH basically eats anything non-metal in the fuel delivery system. Doesn't matter if you put stabilizer in it. Look at the new trend now, or give Stihl, etc. a call. - most production cutters/arboriculture companies are now running bottled gas because the problem is so bad. We ended up with equipment that was in the shop every second month, for carb overhauls, very poor running/idling/stalling. Even with additive, we got phase separation right in the tank. Two month old reg gas, with stabilizer - detonation in the cylinder - pistons, rings, scored cylinders, seized motors. It got so bad in all our outboards that we installed in-tank water separator filters, as well as filters on our fuel lines. Here's what we do at work, and I do at home for my stuff:
I will NOT run reg. UL fuel in my chainsaws, if at all possible. I only use shell gold 91 without ethanol, if possible. SeaFoam goes in to it for storage life, as well as lube function, combustion chamber carbon removal, etc. If reg ul has to be used - seafoam, keep tank full to reduce phase separation, do not store fuel more than 1 month. If I have any equipment that will sit a long time eg. log splitter - I fill the tank with gas that has Stabil and run it a few minutes. Next time I use the thing, I drain the old gas and put fresh in before stating.
My outboards - Shell 91 with sea foam. No 91 shell - water separator filter, keep tank full, use gas within 1 month, add sea foam. If your motor (outboard, skidoo, ATV) sits for a couple months - I find this is very important - drain the fuel tank of old gas, then "blot -up" the last remaining 4-5 tablespoons of gas that is sitting in the bottom of the tank. This has all the crap in it (varnish residue, dirt). I use a blue shop towel and a wood dowel to blot it. Then purge your fuel line till it's dry, otherwise you're just putting this old gas right back into your machine's carb. Since we've done this routine - gone from constant repair to pretty much smooth sailing. I make sure I buy small jerries of gas and use them up quickly, to try to have fresh gas only.
I use SeaFoam in everything I own. A very cheap investment, and good for my blood pressure.
I use a Polaris 6x6 sportsman, 500cc, six wheel drive, 900lb cargo capacity in the box, 1900 towed, same width as any ATV. Tough as nails, carries all equipment I need, carries deer or tired partner out. Have a look online. Bought my '08 for $5k used. Hydro used them until they jumped to the side by side polaris