Shooting a coyote while wild turkey hunting

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

Have you read the full section in the Fish and Wildlife Act that the text is from? There is more then quoted in the hunting regs.

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I have read the full Act... there is nothing that states you cannot have two firearms, or even three, while hunting. It is my understanding that the hunter is expected to know and comply with the regulations and the Act as written. If there was an intent to prohibit the possession of two firearms while hunting it would be written. The only time I am aware of a restriction is when you are hunting with an apprentice and therefore you are limited to one firearm for both hunters. I have a problem with that one but it is what it is.

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Originally Posted by DGearyFTE

I have read the full Act... there is nothing that states you cannot have two firearms, or even three, while hunting. It is my understanding that the hunter is expected to know and comply with the regulations and the Act as written. If there was an intent to prohibit the possession of two firearms while hunting it would be written. The only time I am aware of a restriction is when you are hunting with an apprentice and therefore you are limited to one firearm for both hunters. I have a problem with that one but it is what it is.

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He is saying that a person could not hunt coyote with a rifle during a shotgun only deer season. The Hunting Regs talks about a bow only season, but in the Act there is more to the paragraph.
I can not pull up and quote ( cut and paste )the act till I get home this weekend.

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Originally Posted by DGearyFTE

Good point! I have a true aversion to shooting myself. As an ex-military guy I am of the school that there is no such thing as an 'accident' with a firearm.

I find it easiest for myself to simply wait until I get to the spot where I want to hunt and load there. It takes the guess work out of the equation since there is really no way to be able to effectively hunt on the walk in with a shotgun and a rifle. Given that it is before daylight it is not an issue since I can't see to shoot and it is also illegal.

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Same here. I will unload and secure my rifle well travelling. If rabbits or other small game is open I will switch to #5 or #6 shot when I am moving around. If not I just carry the shotgun empty.
Been shot....don't care to be again.

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

From the regs.....I guess you would have to convince a JP you were only hunting coyotes, while turkey calling over turkey decoys....good luck with that !

79 - O.Reg 665/98

Hunt wild turkey with illegal firearm

Set Fine: $150.00

Total Payable: $180.00

A person who hunts wild turkey shall not use a firearm other than,

(a) a shotgun, including a muzzle-loading shotgun, not larger than number 10 gauge and not smaller than number 20 gauge loaded with shot sizes number 4, 5 or 6; or

(b) a cross-bow, long-

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That reg doesn't say you can't carry a rifle and a shotgun while turkey hunting.

Just to complicate things, what if I'm hunting turkeys with a drilling (20 guage side by side- 270 win) I'm not carrying 2 firearms but if I see a yote I can drop in the 270. If I have a valid small game license and valid Turkey tag as long as I don't shoot the turkey with the rifle round (which would be painfully obvious) wouldn't that satisfy any scenario? If I only had 270 rounds on me, then there would be a problem, but if I had #4 20 guage and 90gr 270?
I'm sure in the end it would be up to the CO's discretion, if there was any doubt I'm sure they would just charge and let the courts decide.

In many parts of North America they have been legally shooting turkeys with rifles for a hundred years. If you use the right loads it is the most logical way to do it without spoiling much meat. I was never a shotgun fan for game that was not flying so have never got my local Turkey license. I have however hunted them legally with a 45 many years ago in a state far away and did not feel handicapped in any manner.

You could legally go hunting for coyotes with both a 22-250 and a shotgun loaded with #4 shot.

The way people write on here it would make it seem that you cannot hunt anything when something bigger is open. Meaning that if there is a turkey season then you cannot use anything but a shotgun with 4,5,6 shot, period, even if you want to hunt something else. Why can you legally not have your turkey shotgun and your rifle with you, at 7pm switch to the rifle and hunt coyotes. What about groundhogs, can I not stop my turkey hunt and go clear out a pasture? Can I not have a shotgun with 4,5,6 shot on me hunting groundhogs without a turkey license?

It is all at the discretion of the CO, you know if you are doing something illegal.

That being said good luck ever seeing a CO in Ontario, we pay more and see less enforcement.

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Originally Posted by brent

No.......

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With respect, I disagree. I think you may want to qualify your response since it does not align with the regulations.

I was under the impression you can have to guns.. however if not using a shotgun for turkey you have to quickly dress in hunter orange. . and poor up an orange flag and a sign indicating your coyote hunting. Once the coyote had been shot, you can remove the flag and sign and orange and resume normal turkey hunting.

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Originally Posted by topher

I was under the impression you can have to guns.. however if not using a shotgun for turkey you have to quickly dress in hunter orange. . and poor up an orange flag and a sign indicating your coyote hunting. Once the coyote had been shot, you can remove the flag and sign and orange and resume normal turkey hunting.

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Ha ha ha ha, I better go make a "Hunting Coyote" flag