Lol, pretty much reality for most people...
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Moose should be controlled with the same tags as deer. Antlered and antlerless tags. Forget making a distinction between adult cows and ambiguous sex calves.
Rev, can you appreciate that your "realities" are different from other peoples.
1) More deer than Moose, yet even with deer many have the "if its brown it's down" approach. So just think about that, what if when you went Deer hunting sightings, were few and far between. Still sure your approach might not change?
2) Im guessing you hunt a lot. Seem to have a fair bit of time for Moose, than make a 12-17hr drive south for deer for another week?
I hunted deer in 53 ( between bracebridge/huntsville). Family owned 100 acre parcel. Not many deer there, and the guys had busy lives. Careers, wives, young children. They found it hard getting weekends in Aug and Sept to do prep work, let alone take an entire week in Nov for Deer. The only hunting they would do that year. Most years they didn't fill any tags, the years I was there we saw about 6-7 does/fawns total, for the years I went and not 1 WT graced a pole.
If it was brown and the shot safe, it was getting shot…… period. If not for me, for them (Last deer hung was around 2009).
To each their own.
It's good if the MNR says its good and thats the only thing that matters.
It is possible to discuss things about conservation, about declining numbers and what might be done, without…….
how do you offer both cow and bull surplus tags when the mnrf says they are cutting quotas due to moose population declines???? I just got back from my camp in area 28. Talked to the local butcher and he said he did 91 moose last year. 13 of which were from non aboriginals. that blew my mind !!! Not to mention he did 12 cows this past april!!!!! wtf!!! they are shooting cows heavy with calves in the spring????? I call on this. you know those cows prob had calves........lets face it.... until we regulate our moose herd as a whole we really aren't regulating it at all!!!!!!
it's a shame that some people call themselves hunters but have no respect for the animal they hunt and do not want to preserve future hunting.We have a low deer herds ,I buy a tag so I can hunt partridge and may go out once or twice for deer.
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And people wonder why.
JBen, nice to see posts from you; it has been a while. Hope you are well.
One thing I see commonly in these threads....."MNR screwed it up" "Common sense says" or "everybody knows"...all from people who have never asked the MNR biologists why these decisions have been made. No change ever came from armchair quarterbacks. Do the research.