Trucks, which one, Tacoma-Frontier or Colorado?

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April 2nd, 2016, 09:09 PM
last5oh_302

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Originally Posted by skeeter1

Have to disagree here, if that was the case the 150 would have a much higher resale value. When I last looked the resale value went Toyota, GM, Ford and lastly Dodge?

As far as off road goes I think you are way off the mark too, sorry:) I have a buddy with a Ford 150 and one with a Dodge, they will not even attempt to take their trucks where I can get mine, they are wayyyyy to heavy and they sink like stones. The angle of approach is superior in the Tacoma so is the angle of departure.

As for hauling and towing well you have me there:)

The F150 comes in at roughly 400 pounds more than the Tacoma, so not so much more weight for a lot more truck.

4x4 Supercrew F150 compared to 4x4 4 door Taco V6:

http://www.toyota.ca/toyota/en/vehic...s/capacity#cp4

http://www.ford.ca/trucks/f150/speci...ns/capacities/
April 2nd, 2016, 10:38 PM
delmer

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Originally Posted by fratri

How do you handle the winter...frozen windshield every morning, scraping it off must be a PITA?

That's what remote starters are for.

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Originally Posted by TurkeyRookie

I was always under the impression keeping ANY vehicle in a heated garage through the winter in areas where salt is used on roads was a bad idea.

At least outside the vehicle stays cold where hte salt can't activate and start to eat away versus when it's in a warm garage.

That's right, rust (oxidation) needs moisture. Sub zero temps don't provide that, whereas a heated garage does through melt off.

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Originally Posted by 3030

Because GM trucks are built in Mexico now

The Colorado/Canyon that the OP was inquiring about is built in Wentzville (St. Louis).

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Originally Posted by seabast

Flipping a coin would be better than asking to the public! Every brands can have break down and have recalls, this is a fact.

Just like a gun, try them all and pick the one that feel the best.

The best answer to the question. My concern with a Nissan would be availability of a local dealer and service costs. Toyota, well, some think they are the best thing since sliced bread, while others feel they are over rated because of the logo on the grille. GM quality has been improving dramatically since their restructuring, and believe it or not, equals or exceeds Japanese vehicles in most cases as per the latest quality surveys.
April 3rd, 2016, 06:30 PM
Fisherman

GM quality has been improving dramatically since their restructuring, and believe it or not, equals or exceeds Japanese vehicles in most cases as per the latest quality surveys.[/QUOTE]

Hahahahahahaha, couldn't get any worse, they're at the bottom of the pile and probably will be for a while.
April 3rd, 2016, 08:46 PM
sawbill

Hondas and Toyotas are way overpriced. In Sudbury there are two dealerships side by side, a Toyota and a Nissan dealer both owned by the same guy. I priced out two identical vehicles and bought a Nissan Rogue for 5 thousand less with all the exact same options that the Toyota had. When I asked the owner why the difference in price he just pointed to the logo on the Toyota and said people were paying for that.
April 3rd, 2016, 08:56 PM
delmer

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Originally Posted by delmer

GM quality has been improving dramatically since their restructuring, and believe it or not, equals or exceeds Japanese vehicles in most cases as per the latest quality surveys.

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Originally Posted by Fisherman

Hahahahahahaha, couldn't get any worse, they're at the bottom of the pile and probably will be for a while.

As I stated, GM quality equals or exceeds Japanese brands. This is some info about the last couple JD Powers quality reports, which is the gold standard that manufacturers use to measure their quality.

From 2015

For the first time in nearly three decades, Japanese brand vehicles fell below industry average on initial quality, according to a consumer survey by J.D. Power & Associates.
The surprising result is less a measure of faltering by the Japanese and more are a reflection of how much faster other brands are improving. The Japanese brands improved marginally, but failed to keep up with the rest of the industry.

Lexus ranks highest in vehicle dependability among all nameplates for a fourth consecutive year, with a score of 89 PP100.
· Buick (110 PP100) follows Lexus in the rankings, moving up three rank positions from 2014.
· Following Buick in the rankings are Toyota (111 PP100), Cadillac (114 PP100), and Honda and Porsche in a tie (116 PP100 each).
· Notable rank improvements from 2014 include Scion (121 PP100), improving by 13 rank positions from 2014; Ram (134 PP100), improving 11 rank positions; and Mitsubishi (140 PP100), improving 10 rank positions.

General Motors Company and Toyota Motor Corporation each receive seven segment awards.

· GM models receiving an award include the Buick LaCrosse; Chevrolet Camaro; Chevrolet Malibu; Chevrolet Silverado HD; GMC Sierra LD; GMC Terrain; and GMC Yukon.
· Toyota awardees include the Lexus ES; Lexus GX; Scion tC; Scion xB; Scion xD; Toyota Corolla; and Toyota Sienna.

From 2016

Highest-Ranked Nameplates and Models
Lexus ranks highest in vehicle dependability among all nameplates for a fifth consecutive year, with a score of 95 problems per 100 vehicles (PP100).
· Porsche (97 PP100) follows Lexus in the rankings, moving up from fifth in 2015.
· Following Porsche in the rankings are Buick (106 PP100), Toyota (113 PP100) and GMC (120 PP100).

General Motors Company receives eight segment awards and Toyota Motor Corporation six.

· GM models receiving an award include the Buick Encore; Buick LaCrosse; Buick Verano; Chevrolet Camaro; Chevrolet Equinox; Chevrolet Malibu; Chevrolet Silverado HD; and GMC Yukon.
· Toyota awardees include the Lexus ES; Lexus GS; Lexus GX; Toyota Prius v; Toyota Sienna; and Toyota Tundra.
- See more at: http://www.jdpower.com/press-release....Sqk56EYD.dpuf
April 3rd, 2016, 09:57 PM
LowbanksArcher

Something else to consider may be your insurance rates. Before purchasing my new fullsize truck last fall, I quoted the big 3's offerings with my insurance company. (The aluminum truck was most expensive.) For the 3 mid sized trucks you're looking at, it might be another factor to tip the scales.

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April 3rd, 2016, 10:05 PM
last5oh_302

My insurance went up 90 bucks a year for the 2016 F150 from my 11 year old 2005 F150, so the theory that insurance rates are going to be higher on aluminum don't seem to be so..

5 star crash test ratings and top safety pick likely help.
April 3rd, 2016, 10:07 PM
fratri

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Originally Posted by LowbanksArcher

Something else to consider may be your insurance rates. Before purchasing my new fullsize truck last fall, I quoted the big 3's offerings with my insurance company. (The aluminum truck was most expensive.) For the 3 mid sized trucks you're looking at, it might be another factor to tip the scales.

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Thanks, I will have to remember to give them a call and ask.... With this weather, makes me glad my vehicle fits in the garage. It is down right nasty out there tonight.
April 3rd, 2016, 10:23 PM
LowbanksArcher

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Originally Posted by last5oh_302

My insurance went up 90 bucks a year for the 2016 F150 from my 11 year old 2005 F150, so the theory that insurance rates are going to be higher on aluminum don't seem to be so..

5 star crash test ratings and top safety pick likely help.

I quoted em all. There was a difference. GM and Ram were about the same, F150 was more. Not bashing Ford. They're nice trucks and I was seriously close to pulling the trigger on one. I find brand loyalty silly and compared everything equally. They're all great trucks. So it's worth weighing out any measurable difference between them to pick the one you're going to be spending some time with.

Curious to hear your quote comparison Fratri
April 3rd, 2016, 10:29 PM
last5oh_302

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Originally Posted by LowbanksArcher

I quoted em all. There was a difference. GM and Ram were about the same, F150 was more. Not bashing Ford. They're nice trucks and I was seriously close to pulling the trigger on one. I find brand loyalty silly and compared everything equally. They're all great trucks. So it's worth weighing out any measurable difference between them to pick the one you're going to be spending some time with.

Curious to hear your quote comparison Fratri

I believe you but that doesn't seem to be the norm. I was very pleasantly surprised when they told me the new price. Some people claim their premiums went down and some were quoted more on the Ram, so who knows:

http://www.f150forum.com/f118/myth-s...s-f150-291652/

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