The ‘Pie Plate’ Grouping

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Originally Posted by Big Jack

It happenened to me this year. I walked out of bush after I missed a buck because I hit a tree on a very difficult shot around the tree of my tree stand. Buck bounced out across field and halted after I made a noise. Thought this guy was gone for good. I had about a split second to make the shot and no time for a rest or screw with sling or anything else, just a proper form freehand.

He he dropped on the spot at 191 yards....

That is and probably will be the best shot I ever make on a deer.

Not optimal but perfectly doable.

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You probably practice shooting stand and shooting quick too, it is all about practice.

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Originally Posted by Fox

I sure hope you have hunted before making that comment.

The carry sling is not the same setup as the sling support for shooting.

"Free hand" shooting is the norm for many shooting situations, split second shooting situations where finding and setting up on a rest is impossible as well as wrapping your arm in a sling.

It is actually very easy to kill a deer with a free hand shot, that vital area is quiet large, do the same at the same range with a groundhog or a squirrel then you start running into more issues.

Bring your rifle over top of the target, use the weight of the gun to bring the sights into the vitals and squeeze.

I have never shot at a deer with a rest, never had that opportunity, always at the wrong spot or as I am going in to or out of the stand.

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I guess it comes to experience. I,ve been hunting deer for 51 years. Kept records for 8 years and killed 48 deer in Ontario and Michigans. I never shoot at running deer ,I stop them with real deer sound from my voice. In the reserves, I was one of the top shooters.

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Originally Posted by Big Jack

It happenened to me this year. I walked out of bush after I missed a buck because I hit a tree on a very difficult shot around the tree of my tree stand. Buck bounced out across field and halted after I made a noise. Thought this guy was gone for good. I had about a split second to make the shot and no time for a rest or screw with sling or anything else, just a proper form freehand.

He he dropped on the spot at 191 yards....

That is and probably will be the best shot I ever make on a deer.

Not optimal but perfectly doable.

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any deer will drop when you hit them in the spline. So what your really saying is you were high.

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Originally Posted by Greenhorn

I guess it comes to experience. I,ve been hunting deer for 51 years. Kept records for 8 years and killed 48 deer in Ontario and Michigans. I never shoot at running deer ,I stop them with real deer sound from my voice. In the reserves, I was one of the top shooters.

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This is quite amusing!

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Originally Posted by Greenhorn

I guess it comes to experience. I,ve been hunting deer for 51 years. Kept records for 8 years and killed 48 deer in Ontario and Michigans. I never shoot at running deer ,I stop them with real deer sound from my voice. In the reserves, I was one of the top shooters.

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Good for you, does not mean a thing when you do not experience the same type of hunting situations. I have called at deer and they sped up. When walking back to the house or the camp and I see a deer I have a split second to get the sights on it and pull that trigger, it has nothing to do at all with a running deer, some areas are so tight that the deer takes a step and they are gone.

It only takes about 1/2 second to secure the sling for a better support. That's something to practise.

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Originally Posted by Greenhorn

any deer will drop when you hit them in the spline. So what your really saying is you were high.

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What an assumption!

Lol no it was a textbook quartering shot not in the spine. The second deer this year never took a step either, heart lacerated and lungs gone.

I'm no top shooter in any group but I can guarantee you the thousand(s) rounds/year I send down range keeps me basically competent.