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Originally Posted by dmichel
Well what do you think the future of hunting in the Southern half of the province would look like if everyone followed the philosophy of you and the OP?Quote:
Originally Posted by dmichel
It's not the attitude of the Southern hunters that's the problem, it's the attitude of the non-hunting masses and the fact that we have an exponentially higher hunter/land ratio compared to the North. It's a recipe for disaster for the sport in general if everyone just decided to hunt wherever they felt like it because they "didn't see any signs posted".
Do you two geniuses think you're the first people to think of this little loophole? Most of us realize that we probably wouldn't be charged for trespassing, we just have enough respect to stay off of land that we don't have permission to use.
You're expecting something for nothing, a free ride. It's pure laziness and entitlement. The plague of up and coming generations. Maybe when you're all grown up and have to pay for stuff on your own you'll understand.
So when you see a trail cam on a tree Do you believe that it's lost and you take it home with you
Or should we put a sign on that too
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That about sums it up,perfectly. The sense of entitlement of some people is simply astounding.Quote:
Originally Posted by GW11
I do believe you nailed it GW11, this thread is a good example of the 'sense of entitlement' that has become the trade mark of the 'millennial' generation.Quote:
Originally Posted by GW11
Haha, I'm 72 years old. It's the greed and gimme gimme mine mine attitude of the baby boomers that seems to have got us here. We are talking about forests, not cars. As a kid a forest was there for everyone to enjoy. And the law is written to reflect that.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
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Then you should know that the 'Trespass' issue being discussed here isn't about recreationally enjoying the forests, walking trails etc etc...which is the way (and why ) the law is written the way it is.
The OP is talking about Hunting on private land using the same law to protect him from being charged rather that doing what's right and taking the time to find out who owns it and asking permission first. As the hunting regs say, a hunting license does not give you permission to be on private land.
this thread and attitudes within it make me sick. I talk to a lot of farmers, and they have a constant battle with peope thinking they are entitled to their land with signs and without.
Please realize what you are doing is bad for our sport and also is illegal in most cases. the law isn't as simple as you make it out to be. I just looked this up to confirm, and there are more clauses that will point out what you are doing is illegal, but i am at work and don't have time to scour the act right now.
Its sad that you dont see how your attitude sets back all the hard work of guys before us, and of lots of devoted hunters on this forum. Guys who care about this sport have worked for years to repair landowner trust, from back in the wild west days (thats how some landowners have described the past to me), and with hunters who still think they can do whatever they want.
https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90t21
Prohibition of entry
3. (1) Entry on premises may be prohibited by notice to that effect and entry is prohibited without any notice on premises,
(a) that is a garden, field or other land that is under cultivation, including a lawn, orchard, vineyard and premises on which trees have been planted and have not attained an average height of more than two metres and woodlots on land used primarily for agricultural purposes; or
(b) that is enclosed in a manner that indicates the occupier’s intention to keep persons off the premises or to keep animals on the premises. R.S.O. 1990, c. T.21, s. 3 (1).
this is likely the type of bushes that you have found and are hunting (i don't know the area that well). Also, if that forest is under cultivation at any time (which most forests in southern ontario are in some respects) than you are trespassing.
please rethink your attitudes, as this is whats best for the sport, and your own pocket book.
Also,
you can get information about southern crown forests from your local MNR district office, also there are lots of conservation authorities, municipalities and counties whom allow hunting on their forests, reach out to them (unless you consider that too much trouble). crown land in my area is not on the Crown Land Use Atlas, but the local office can send out maps.
i find it quite hilarious that you think knocking on doors could be "intrusive" but going on land without permission, and finding ways around getting permission is totally acceptable to you. i fi i was a landowner, i would appreciate guys asking permission, but consider guys trespassing as intrusive.
Bang on there. Problem with these people is this is how they were brought up and I can't really blame them for that but it is kind of sadQuote:
Originally Posted by dmichel