Bill Blair

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

Seems like you say that in a derogatory way. As some type of insult. Why? Many families have more than one adult generation under one roof. Outside of N. America it is the norm. With the price of homes it will soon be de rigueur here as well. Do you have children?

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It must be the socialist coming out of you to think it is ok to have an adult child living in their basement? I was raised to look after myself and not to suck the hind tit of mummy or daddy or society in general. Man up and make a life for yourself was the way it was explained me.
As for our buddy Jocko, he's great at slamming others on here, so i just like to remind him of his own pitiful situation. He sure doesn't like the tables turned on him and he's getting very adept at skulking off to lick his wounds. He needs to taken to task!

BM that was a vile comment. Someone’s life is 'pitiful', because an adult offspring lives at home? Disgusting really, when you do not know the situation or under what circumstance or reason, (special needs, fleeing domestic abuse, etc.) why an adult offspring would remain at home. I ask again, do you have children?

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Originally Posted by Bushmoose

It must be the socialist coming out of you to think it is ok to have an adult child living in their basement? I was raised to look after myself and not to suck the hind tit of mummy or daddy or society in general. Man up and make a life for yourself was the way it was explained me.
As for our buddy Jocko, he's great at slamming others on here, so i just like to remind him of his own pitiful situation. He sure doesn't like the tables turned on him and he's getting very adept at skulking off to lick his wounds. He needs to taken to task!

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BM have you looked at the price of houses lately? There is precisely no shame in binding together as a family and making it through hard times together. Moreover, when I'm old and grey and full of sleep, I fully expect to live with one of my relatives where I can get some semblance of kinship rather than rotting away in my own bachelor apartment, full of pride and loneliness.

I want it to be known that there have been requests to shut this thread down, but we have Forum members who've posted on it who are sadly no longer with us, so it seems a slight on them to remove it. Please keep it clean people.

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Originally Posted by MeghanOOD

BM have you looked at the price of houses lately? There is precisely no shame in binding together as a family and making it through hard times together. Moreover, when I'm old and grey and full of sleep, I fully expect to live with one of my relatives where I can get some semblance of kinship rather than rotting away in my own bachelor apartment, full of pride and loneliness.

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Well that's all fine and dandy when a person is "old and grey". They have created a life for themselves and obviously drilled into their children to do the same, otherwise that "old and grey" person won't have a place to go will they? That's part of the problem in our society today, so many are taught that it's ok to live off the avails of others. It's the liberal way! No responsibility for themselves, no care about who looks after their basic lifes needs, as long as someone else will do it for them.
I would much rather live my life and end my days with "pride" than with shame. Obviously there are many out there who haven't grasped such a simple concept?

Bush,

You sound a little angry at the world and are taking things to seriously,enjoy yourself and your fellow hunters and try and remain positive.

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Originally Posted by Bushmoose

Well that's all fine and dandy when a person is "old and grey". They have created a life for themselves and obviously drilled into their children to do the same, otherwise that "old and grey" person won't have a place to go will they? That's part of the problem in our society today, so many are taught that it's ok to live off the avails of others. It's the liberal way! No responsibility for themselves, no care about who looks after their basic lifes needs, as long as someone else will do it for them.
I would much rather live my life and end my days with "pride" than with shame. Obviously there are many out there who haven't grasped such a simple concept?

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So heres 3 personal examples from my life about people living at home.

1) have a brother with a mental illness that he lost his house and job over. Hes rehabilitating himself at my parents and is on the right track now, just got a sweet 6 figure job so I think he will be ok. If he didnt have my parents support he probaby would have hung himself or jumped infront of a train. So sad you think this is unacceptable to get help from your family.

2) A cousin with brain damage and special needs also live at home still, his brother also has autism and needs to be around a stable caregiver which his father is doing for him

3) I have a cousin who in finances who sold his house, moved back home so he can re-invest in his business so he can be more successful in the near future and doesn't have to decide between creating a business or supporting his family. My aunt invited him back to help him out. He very likely manages your pension if you have one with one of the big providers, and currently managing it from his mom's basement.

Obviously you being an older fellow you dont understand or are aware of the financial situation myself and others in my cohort were given the pleasure of dealing with. Unfortunately the generations before us didnt do a good enough job protecting the economy and environment so my generation is stuck cleaning up the mess of generations passed whos average family income was much higher statistically then my generation.

I moved out when I was 19 and got an education I paid for and still paying for. No help from anyone I did everything myself BUT many in my generation struggle. Employers dont hand out pensions and good wages like your generation was privy to. Cost of living is always rising and the goods we buy now aren't built to last like they used to be. Who allowed globalization in? Surely not my generation.

I dont have to post any proof, the statistics are all readily available that show the current and future generations are struggling financially compared to those past. The economy is drastically different then it was in the glory days of the 70s 80s and 90s. Maybe if previous generations made smarter decisions and thought about the future we wouldn't be stuck in the position many in the newer generations are stuck with.

So either get your head out of your arse or stop criticizing what you don't understand. Most people are critical of what they dont understand and you would do yourself a favor to educate yourself before you criticize. Have a nice day.

Of course then you have the guy who's too lazy to work and has a million excuses why he can't find a job. Or too lazy to do his own laundry, or learn how to cook for themselves. That's the same guy/gal who lays around on the couch all day and only gets out to buy his smokes and weed. I think these are the characters BM is talking about.
And I'm sure we all know a few of these fine, constructive citizens.

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Originally Posted by sawbill

Of course then you have the guy who's too lazy to work and has a million excuses why he can't find a job. Or too lazy to do his own laundry, or learn how to cook for themselves. That's the same guy/gal who lays around on the couch all day and only gets out to buy his smokes and weed. I think these are the characters BM is talking about.

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Well Sawbill he is actually making reference to my son,because I complained about some of this generation taking a little to long to fly the nest.So my son has worked basically full time since he was 17 years old and he has now turned 29 years old.
He actually is out on his own now and has been for the past couple of weeks.

Like the poster above your reply my wife and I have been helping my handicapped BIL this past full year after his wife had him charged and thrown out of his home.The charges were all dropped but trying to reconstruct the financial life of a man with cerebral palsy and several other physical handicaps has been difficult.This BIL is almost 60 years old and has never missed a day of work in his life,despite having a limp and the use of one hand.
Bushmoose is just making the mistake of generalizing everybody as having the same type of son in the basement.Shame really.

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Originally Posted by sawbill

Of course then you have the guy who's too lazy to work and has a million excuses why he can't find a job. Or too lazy to do his own laundry, or learn how to cook for themselves. That's the same guy/gal who lays around on the couch all day and only gets out to buy his smokes and weed. I think these are the characters BM is talking about.
And I'm sure we all know a few of these fine, constructive citizens.

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hmmm so that stereotype didnt exist back in BMs day growing up? Ill call BS on that every day of the week. I think now with all the media its easier to expose different situations that others were not in tune about before the advent of the internet.

Either way, better to get this topic back on topic before the back on topic police step in. Beat you to it!

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Bushmoose is just making the mistake of generalizing everybody as having the same type of son in the basement.Shame really.

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I'm just as guilty of making generalized comments too but I'll do it because I like to think most members on this board know what or whom I'm actually referring to.