I don't know why the deer population crashed

jaycee,

Sorry you are wrong again,the Red Deer were reintroduced in parts of the country as they had previously been hunted out in others area,s.

So to explain in slowly for you they did indeed have native Red Deer in the Iberian Peninsula that had been hunted out in 'SOME AREA,S' and they had to
reintroduce them into those area,s from native stock.In other words taking Red Deer from one area they had them back to their former range where they had
been hunted out.Simple to understand for most of us.

[QUOTE=SongDog;1078757]I swear there are antis on this forum that disguise themselves has hunters. Anyone else ever notice they dont post anything about their own hunts? Just bicker back and forth all year long, threads like this are why I question myself why I even come here.

R. I think if you check on their previous threads you will be surprised,they do actually post their hunts.


"I've never shot a jack rabbit in my life. Have seen maybe 10 in the 20 years I've hunted. Dont know a single person that hunts them in the three townships I hunt in. I've also only shot maybe 5 foxes in 15+ years of running hounds. They usually get free passes. Last year we shot 25 coyotes, next gang shot 65 and and the big gang got 100+ plus. Why are jack and fox numbers so low but coyotes are in no shortage? Hunting to blame? Give me a break......"

R. Maybe they don,t hunt jacks because there are not many around? Only asking.

I agree that coyote,s have had a terrible affect on our small game populations,but this thread is about "I don,t know why the deer population crashed"

With that in mind predation by bears as a result of an increase in their population because of the spring bear hunt cancellation and coyote numbers are some of the reasons,but I don,t think we can ignore hunters as a factor in this decline.

For the love of all that is sacred Gilroy..Please learn to properly bracket a quote so we can all makes heads or tails about what you posting...

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

jaycee,

Sorry you are wrong again,the Red Deer were reintroduced in parts of the country as they had previously been hunted out in others area,s.

So to explain in slowly for you they did indeed have native Red Deer in the Iberian Peninsula that had been hunted out in 'SOME AREA,S' and they had to
reintroduce them into those area,s from native stock.In other words taking Red Deer from one area they had them back to their former range where they had
been hunted out.Simple to understand for most of us.

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Doing some back peddling here are you!

The fact still remains that this was /is part of their range!
They were never shot out, as you had claimed , thank you for bolstering what I had said.

Absolutely no where in that link, does it say they were shot out as you claim, read it fully again.

You have confirmed it by saying some were taken from one area to their former range.
This is usually done to diversify the gene pool and build up the herd, which is just good game management.
Again you are confirming that they were not shot out, they were always there.

Thank you for seeing it the way it actually is .

More Crow ? do you want it as a snack or a full meal ?

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

Exactly! WE used to hunt Groundhogs all day long when we were kids. Now,you're lucky to see one before the Coyotes get 'em.

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Yes indeed those things were everywhere, now none to be had...

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Originally Posted by SongDog

I swear there are antis on this forum that disguise themselves has hunters. Anyone else ever notice they dont post anything about their own hunts? Just bicker back and forth all year long, threads like this are why I question myself why I even come here.


I've never shot a jack rabbit in my life. Have seen maybe 10 in the 20 years I've hunted. Dont know a single person that hunts them in the three townships I hunt in. I've also only shot maybe 5 foxes in 15+ years of running hounds. They usually get free passes. Last year we shot 25 coyotes, next gang shot 65 and and the big gang got 100+ plus. Why are jack and fox numbers so low but coyotes are in no shortage? Hunting to blame? Give me a break......

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You have hit the nail on the head.

They also nail deer and fawns.

They are like a plague and always hungry.

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Yes indeed those things were everywhere, now none to be had...

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What's interesting is that between my farm and the neighbours there were NO g'hogs for the first 8-10 yrs I lived here. Then all of a sudden they began to appear and soon populated both farms. I even had them move into the areas around my yard. Had one cheeky bugger even burrow under my hunting shack.

We've always had yotes here, that's been a constant. So not sure what influenced the ground hogs to move into this area and they don't seem to being kept in check by the yotes either.

Good reason to keep the .22 handy...

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Originally Posted by Big Jack

You have hit the nail on the head.

They also nail deer and fawns.

They are like a plague and always hungry.

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Where coyotes are concerned, our group holds no quarter !!!
This year, they are all over the place! The highest numbers I’ve seen in years.

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Originally Posted by rick_iles

Where coyotes are concerned, our group holds no quarter !!!
This year, they are all over the place! The highest numbers I’ve seen in years.

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Glad to hear it.

It’s incredible how much one of these critters eats.

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Yes indeed those things were everywhere, now none to be had...

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All over, that is for sure , but then again,farmers used to have large pasture field where cattle were turned out, also fields were allowed to go fallow for a couple of years but now things have changed.
Now we have fields and fields of corn soybeans and other grain crops an more coyotes than we can handle.
Hence -- no groundhogs and lost opportunities at some great short to long distance shooting in tee shirt weather.