Cormorants

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Originally Posted by MikePal

In regards to deer I have never heard of an 'contract agency' doing this. They usually get the First Nation (treaty rights) go in and cull the required deer for the meat.

On farms they let 'agents' of the farmers 'cull' nuisance deer that are destroying crops, but again I do believe the meat is taken.

Back in the day, before political correctness, they used to have bounties on gophers etc to cull down the numbers.

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Originally Posted by jaycee

Did The MNRF, NOT BRING IN "Snipers from New Zealand a couple of years ago , to cull the deer on Point Pelee, or Rondeau Prov. Park " ?
There were pictures/articles in the newspapers regarding this incident with a large outcry from the public.

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You are both correct. The thing that it boils down to is these days is that the cheap and cost effective ways of doing things is never an option.

I stood in a parking lot last night and listened to a farmer go on for about 20 to 30 minutes about Raccoons on his farm destroying crops and damaging buildings. Told him about the option to have a hunter or Trapper remove a few, but he said the government should hire an Agent to fix the problem. This was after I had already told him that any licensed Hunter or Trapper was a licensed Agent for the Province. The guy was willing to pay an agent hired by the Province, but did not want some one to do it for free.

Now I may be wrong, but if you as a land owner are willing to let me hunt/trap on your property, and I am removing Pests and protecting your Crops, Livestock and Property why should I NOT do it for ******FREE******?

Many times went I am talking to land owners about Pigeons for example, everything is going good till they ask what the removal of the pigeons will cost. When I say I don't want to be payed I'll just do it for free, they change their minds.

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Originally Posted by GW11

You must find yourself in a real moral dilemma when it comes to setting a mouse trap... or do you eat them too?

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They can be substituted for meat balls I hear.

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Originally Posted by jaycee

Did The MNRF, NOT BRING IN "Snipers from New Zealand a couple of years ago , to cull the deer on Point Pelee, or Rondeau Prov. Park " ?
There were pictures/articles in the newspapers regarding this incident with a large outcry from the public.

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The Point Pelee was done by First Nations....the outcry was from non-indigenous hunters wondering why they weren't allowed. The Park in under treaty rights...

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Point Pelee National Park closed between January 10 and 26 for a deer cull to reduce the population by 50.

The deer population was estimated at 120 before the cull, up from 103 last January, according to Tammy Dobbie, the park's ecologist. The park works with the Caldwell First Nation, who take the deer for personal and ceremonial use.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

In regards to deer I have never heard of an 'contract agency' doing this. They usually get the First Nation (treaty rights) go in and cull the required deer for the meat.

On farms they let 'agents' of the farmers 'cull' nuisance deer that are destroying crops, but again I do believe the meat is taken.

Back in the day, before political correctness, they used to have bounties on gophers etc to cull down the numbers.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

The Point Pelee was done by First Nations....the outcry was from non-indigenous hunters wondering why they weren't allowed. The Park in under treaty rights...

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The NZ guys were the Islands off BC. They also were using Suppressed Rifle. Something you or I would be lined up and shot for even talking about.

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

e. The guy was willing to pay an agent hired by the Province, but did not want some one to do it for free.

Now I may be wrong, but if you as a land owner are willing to let me hunt/trap on your property, and I am removing Pests and protecting your Crops, Livestock and Property why should I NOT do it for ******FREE******?

Many times went I am talking to land owners about Pigeons for example, everything is going good till they ask what the removal of the pigeons will cost. When I say I don't want to be payed I'll just do it for free, they change their minds.

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Its the world we live in. You charge a fee than you are responsible for any adverse outcomes. Got to thank the lawyers for this one.

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Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers

Its the world we live in. You charge a fee than you are responsible for any adverse outcomes. Got to thank the lawyers for this one.

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So your saying the old farmer wants to pay me, for what I am willing to do for free?
Not sure what your trying to get at there?

Cormorants seem like pretty smart birds too. I bet they will catch on very quickly when they are getting shot at.

And Im not buying any damn cormorant calls or decoys lol

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

So your saying the old farmer wants to pay me, for what I am willing to do for free?
Not sure what your trying to get at there?

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He pays for extermination service you get hurt... not his problem as he payed for a service.
He lets you shoot some pigeons for free you hurt yourself you hire a lawyer to sue him for negligence.
Its a changing world.

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Originally Posted by finsfurfeathers

He pays for extermination service you get hurt... not his problem as he payed for a service.
He lets you shoot some pigeons for free you hurt yourself you hire a lawyer to sue him for negligence.
Its a changing world.

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I see what you mean now.

I have insurance for that as well, and do tell them about it.

I’m always amused in attempting to find historical information on the internet how sketchy it is. For instance I can find information on when the Cormorant population in the Great Lake basin began to explode. But information on when residential fishing licencing came into full swing doesn’t appear to be available. I stopped fishing at that time, and it’s so far back I’ve lost track of when it began.. I recall after the fishing licence got established they started fish restocking to give fishermen some return on the money they were spending on licencing. The earliest restocking started in the Great Lake basin and eventually after they received enough complains from those further back, they move on into stocking the back lakes. They dumped a lot of fry into the Great lake basin to improve the game fishery. After recalling the Delmar Peninsula thing with the corn harvest and the geese, I’m half wondering if the surplus of food from the restocking of game fish in the Great Lake basin may have been the biological trigger, that caused the Cormorants to stop their northern migration and take up residence in the basin. Something to think about.

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