Covid 2nd Wave....fact or fiction

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Originally Posted by fishfood

He will have the best lawyer's money can buy a go fund me page is up and it's on [emoji91].[emoji106]


https://torontosun.com/news/local-ne...amson-barbecue

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Yea, something tells me he was already backed by someone else's finances that pushed him to do this repeatedly knowing he would be the sacrificial lamb. Although Im all for social justice I dunno how much I agree with his methodology. If hes got money and time to fight tickets maybe he should have just launched a lawsuit against the government instead. I guess he wouldn't be able to sell as many brisket sandwiches that way, shame everything these days is about people getting their 15 minutes of fame.

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

Why? Are you not familiar with our parliamentary system? The Conservative party of Ontario, the sitting majority, under leader Ford, passed a bill with their majority government, making it a law. The one people are complaining about . So now you know. Please remember that the next time you vote in an Ontario provincial election. Just how mad you were at that bill, creating this law. And by whom.

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I'm not a big fan of these "selective" shutdowns,either,but,I'd much rather see the government do something as opposed to nothing. I get that folks are getting fed up,especially,when the government proposes restricting time-honored holiday traditions. Do we really want a catastrophic spike in illnesses? I don't think so,although,I'm convinced the entire issue has been politicized to the point of ridiculousness much to the detriment of the mental health of a lot of people who the media has managed to scare the crap out of. Compare the number of active cases against the total population,then,compare the actual number of people in hospital with Covid -19 against the number of people in hospital with other illnesses. The Coronavirus pales in comparison,yet,it's the "cause celebre" in the media. We really need to lace our boots up to the very top to wade through the bullshyte.

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Originally Posted by mosquito

Already looked at that, 98.5% were in long term care, 1.5% of fatalities outside them... that would put it at 177 for all of Canada.



Another step into the dark for Canada....

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So why aren't they protecting more at these highly risk area's?
Why are they crippling the economy when when they know who to look after .

They said it last year when they released event 201 that the elderly people would suffer the most. They knew that before the virus was even a thing. They knew this stain has one main target. They said it last year .

It has the ability to wipe out most of a long term care yet they still have them bouncing them around like yoyos .

Why don't the sick work with the sick ? You got covid they work with covid .

They are suspecting that thousands of york region school kids have covid and many don't even know it. They are not testing the people with little symptoms right now . We need to protect the ones who need it the most that is our elders and Small businesses.


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People relying on the government. Doing great so far eh?

Will contribute
https://youtu.be/7Lq3_rsBJ9w

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Originally Posted by fishfood

So why aren't they protecting more at these highly risk area's?
Why are they crippling the economy when when they know who to look after .

They said it last year when they released event 201 that the elderly people would suffer the most. They knew that before the virus was even a thing. They knew this stain has one main target. They said it last year .

It has the ability to wipe out most of a long term care yet they still have them bouncing them around like yoyos .

Why don't the sick work with the sick ? You got covid they work with covid .

They are suspecting that thousands of york region school kids have covid and many don't even know it. They are not testing the people with little symptoms right now . We need to protect the ones who need it the most that is our elders and Small businesses.


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CTV doesn't really say much there, incompetence, intentional, total disregard for the victims ... it could be 1, 2 or all 3... Ezra came out with a book on it that is interesting and trending but as for answers....
https://www.facebook.com/PatrioticDa...55165919627490


there is a video about the early part and possible creation of the virus...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lq3_rsBJ9w

IF you are to believe so many of the stories it was created, released to allow the China gov't to gain more control and cripple other economies...

• some virologists say it was created and we know the early whistle blowers in China disappeared and some died... Communist gov't, enough said
• we know that Trudeau was warned early, gave away the PPE, we were told masks didn't work and there was no screening at airports and travel restrictions from hotspots .... deliberate "chance" creation or lies and incompetence...??
• we know Trudeau has openly said it was a chance and opportunity to change things... deliberately making it worse? deliberate abuses of power and money? and in general why? (Which why, why it was released, why they ignored and lied to us, why they ignored the elderly, fear mongering of the least likely to have a voice? was it to create a Canadian version of Cuba with perpetual Trudeau "leadership"? ....too many whys to list)

Much of what some would call a conspiracy theory is essentially openly declared as far as their using "opportunity" the Wuhan Pneumonia gives leaders, elites, tech giants ... but was the virus released or ignored with a purpose? What purpose if so? Why? Natural, Accidentally released or did the facility that Canada had sent viruses to in Wuhan and that had been accused of being a danger actually release it on purpose .... we likely won't ever get answers, those in power likely won't tell the truth and those that might tell us definitively in China are perhaps travelling globally now with new jobs ... https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_0iUM_afdHw/maxresdefault.jpg

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Originally Posted by mosquito

CTV doesn't really say much there, incompetence, intentional, total disregard for the victims ... it could be 1, 2 or all 3... Ezra came out with a book on it that is interesting and trending but as for answers....
https://www.facebook.com/PatrioticDa...55165919627490


there is a video about the early part and possible creation of the virus...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lq3_rsBJ9w

IF you are to believe so many of the stories it was created, released to allow the China gov't to gain more control and cripple other economies...

• some virologists say it was created and we know the early whistle blowers in China disappeared and some died... Communist gov't, enough said
• we know that Trudeau was warned early, gave away the PPE, we were told masks didn't work and there was no screening at airports and travel restrictions from hotspots .... deliberate "chance" creation or lies and incompetence...??
• we know Trudeau has openly said it was a chance and opportunity to change things... deliberately making it worse? deliberate abuses of power and money? and in general why? (Which why, why it was released, why they ignored and lied to us, why they ignored the elderly, fear mongering of the least likely to have a voice? was it to create a Canadian version of Cuba with perpetual Trudeau "leadership"? ....too many whys to list)

Much of what some would call a conspiracy theory is essentially openly declared as far as their using "opportunity" the Wuhan Pneumonia gives leaders, elites, tech giants ... but was the virus released or ignored with a purpose? What purpose if so? Why? Natural, Accidentally released or did the facility that Canada had sent viruses to in Wuhan and that had been accused of being a danger actually release it on purpose .... we likely won't ever get answers, those in power likely won't tell the truth and those that might tell us definitively in China are perhaps travelling globally now with new jobs ... https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_0iUM_afdHw/maxresdefault.jpg

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Have you heard of The eyes of Darkness by Dean Koontz written in 1981 and talks about a virus from China in 2020? Some crazy foretelling, check out the pics I attached its quite chilling. I haven't read the book but it got enough attention to have news articles written about it [emoji848][emoji848][emoji848]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...e08c88e07f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...d6ecf527bd.jpg

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

Amazing but I agree with most of what you stated. There is hypocrisy everywhere, my point of view is ‘ for the greater good ‘. I will say again, ask the sitting Conservative government why they are doing this? Are they compliant with the ‘reset’, the NWO? Remember next election, what party implemented exactly what you are rallying against.

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I'm pretty sure the PC's are doing this because of the criticism they face. They tried to keep business open, Ford really did. Now the Auditor General is coming down on them for not reacting fast enough ... nothing I'm hearing in the news about the balance between health and economy ... it is 100% focused on health and COVID only ... there is very, very little coming through on the impact the decision has on the economy and business owners. So, in the end, really ... the news decides what the government will do, because they act out of fear of criticism ... imagine that ... the NEWS runs the country. Maybe that is exactly what some want (hmm .... who owns the news)?

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

Lets get it straight, the shut down of Ontario is entirely on the provincial conservatives. No one else. It is a provincial responsibility, who can they pass the buck to? Normal as we all remember it is gone. So is the Conservative government of Ontario compliant in this ? Facilitators? They are the ones in Ontario making the rules you are rebelling against. Are the Ontario Conservatives part of this? Does the federal party know?

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Not really ... Trudeau has threatened to enforce on federal level if provinces didn't act ... so the pressure came from the top. And as per my previous post, the news is what sets the tone (of criticism) and the governments are simply reacting out of fear of criticism. All in all, it's just one big (controlled) mess.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

I'm not a big fan of these "selective" shutdowns,either,but,I'd much rather see the government do something as opposed to nothing. I get that folks are getting fed up,especially,when the government proposes restricting time-honored holiday traditions. Do we really want a catastrophic spike in illnesses? I don't think so,although,I'm convinced the entire issue has been politicized to the point of ridiculousness much to the detriment of the mental health of a lot of people who the media has managed to scare the crap out of. Compare the number of active cases against the total population,then,compare the actual number of people in hospital with Covid -19 against the number of people in hospital with other illnesses. The Coronavirus pales in comparison,yet,it's the "cause celebre" in the media. We really need to lace our boots up to the very top to wade through the bullshyte.

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I don't think it is a matter of "doing nothing" or on the complete opposite end of that spectrum "shutting down everything" ... you see, the government (via media pressure) is thinking like this is some kind of light switch (on or off) ... but in fact, they should install a dimmer .... there's a lot of stuff you can do in-between on and off that makes sense ... but why isn't that happening? News pushing the agenda? Government too disorganized and inept to actually think beyond the light switch strategy?? The strategy must be VERY detailed for every business type ... they have enough data now to see where the outbreaks are happening and how ... so why punish a smoked meat shop, if 90% of the spread is in old age homes, or in home parties?? Impose the right rules in the smoke shop (limit to 3 or 5 patrons in the restaurant at a time, allow for curbside pick up, wear masks/gloves, have hand sanitizer .... whatever) and allow them to carry on.

This on/off stuff is really a stupid, lazy way to deal with things ... and the consequences are no joke ... death of people or death of economy (which will lead back to death of people).