I was told by an officer who was there that Polley was extremely aggressive and rushed at an officer who responded appropriately. Maybe she thought being an actress would give her a pass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
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I was told by an officer who was there that Polley was extremely aggressive and rushed at an officer who responded appropriately. Maybe she thought being an actress would give her a pass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Well I will not comment on the level of force used as I was not there but my previous clientele from a previous division would probably deserve this type of treatment but they would be intent on causing bodily harm. There were many officer's I meet that were not real good in conflict situations, were afraid and over reacted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
Cops continue to defy court order, Passing the buck, Protest ruled legal. https://www.facebook.com/1165219584/...2503751635340/
Are you serious?Quote:
Originally Posted by GloHole
Just one look who is organizing the funding shows that to be false.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say there. Are you saying your opinion of Tamara Lich supersedes a judges order? I'm not sure if you watched the video but it was mentioned in it by lawyer Jane Sharrf. So ya man serious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodsman
"The trucker convoy has made it clear that they don't want any political affiliation tied to their movement, they just want the tyrant gone"
There is a political affiliation for sure. The "tyrant" is a Liberal. I think this action has drawn together a lot of people who either may hate Trudeau or are right wing and want to upset the current Liberal federal government. Why are they directing their efforts towards the federal government when the vast majority of restrictions are implemented by provincial governments?
The action has also drawn together a lot of people who are negatively affected by the restrictions who probably have no political affiliation. These people have valid beefs about how the restrictions have affected their lives. Some people get through this two year situation with a little inconvenience. Others, however suffer horrible effects either economically, emotionally or socially. They are justifiably upset and this movement is the first and the only time they have had an opportunity to express their frustration.
Prediction:
The main problem Trudeau has is that he has few, narrowly circumscribed bases of power that were enough to barely get elected, but not enough to govern against the will of the people. Those are very different things.
So that leaves him with very serious limits on what he can accomplish in this situation (other than ending all mandates, which would be his easiest and most reasonable course of action, and the only one that would even begin to salvage whatever scraps are left of his public image). The truckers are smart. They did not all converge on Ottawa, but rather organized themselves locally and created many small points of protest. A local, decentralized tactic that relies on local support (of which there has been an overwhelming amount of).
Quite simply, this is the trucker's battle to lose. If they can outlast the government, they will break the camel's back. Trudeau needs desperately to win every interaction to stay in power. All the truckers have to do is "not lose" -- a draw is always in their favour, and the situation in most places right now is a draw: RCMP huff & puff but have not been able to deal with or disperse a single protest. Police said they would crack down on jerry cans with gasoline so hundreds of people trolled them into oblivion by walking around with empty ones.
This is like a method initially designed for naval warfare called blockshipping: sinking ships to block strategic narrows or harbour entrances. There is literally no economical way of dealing with this tactic. Truckers know this. Their worst case scenario, losing their jobs and their trucks by just walking away still imposes a massive cost on the government. When the worst case scenario is that both you and your opponent lose, you have everything to gain.
There is no real strategy here for Trudeau. There's no clear victory anymore for him -- the libs have thrown everything at the wall out of sheer desperation and nothing stuck.
It's all about how badly he loses now.
Bushwhacker; Prediction:
The main problem Trudeau has is that he has few, narrowly circumscribed bases of power that were enough to barely get elected, but not enough to govern against the will of the people. Those are very different things.
Reply. very few governments in a democracy can rule against the will of the people. But as election was run only 6 months ago while all these restrictions were in place by governments of many political stripes. Trudeau won that election handily and gained six more seats.
The opposition with very little plans barely kept their seat count and the Liberals actually made inroads into Alberta. LOL
So to describe that he barely got re elected is just not close to accurate.
So that leaves him with very serious limits on what he can accomplish in this situation (other than ending all mandates, which would be his easiest and most reasonable course of action, and the only one that would even begin to salvage whatever scraps are left of his public image).
Reply. Well he cannot end all mandates as he did not IMPOSE ALL MANDATES. His public image with his base remains intact and comments by the likes of Trump mean nothing to him.
The truckers are smart. They did not all converge on Ottawa, but rather organized themselves locally and created many small points of protest. A local, decentralized tactic that relies on local support (of which there has been an overwhelming amount of).
Reply. The idea of there being local support is very questionable, considering they are imposing more lock down's on citizens.
Quite simply, this is the trucker's battle to lose. If they can outlast the government, they will break the camel's back. Trudeau needs desperately to win every interaction to stay in power. All the truckers have to do is "not lose" -- a draw is always in their favour, and the situation in most places right now is a draw:
Reply. The fact that these folks posing as truckers does not mean they are truckers. They might be people with access to trucks to block roads but most REAL truckers are out at work supplying the country with goods. How is it that these hard working so called truckers can take 13 days out of their busy lives, with wife's and children and continue to block a Capital. So who is supplying these folks with access to trucks bank rolling them to stay, follow the money trail.
RCMP huff & puff but have not been able to deal with or disperse a single protest. Police said they would crack down on jerry cans with gasoline so hundreds of people trolled them into oblivion by walking around with empty ones.
This is like a method initially designed for naval warfare called blockshipping: sinking ships to block strategic narrows or harbour entrances. There is literally no economical way of dealing with this tactic. Truckers know this. Their worst case scenario, losing their jobs and their trucks by just walking away still imposes a massive cost on the government. When the worst case scenario is that both you and your opponent lose, you have everything to gain.
Reply. If you think these occupiers have more reserve funds than the government I believe your wrong.
There is no real strategy here for Trudeau. There's no clear victory anymore for him -- the libs have thrown everything at the wall out of sheer desperation and nothing stuck.
It's all about how badly he loses now.[/QUOTE]
Reply. Wishful thinking, the strategy will be to leave them there. There is already blow back on Conservative Premiers who have been either hiding or now capitulating, he will simply sit back and allow them sort out the mess they helped to create. He known's full well that the majority of the main players and supporters are not his base and is confident the vast majority of the public who got vaccinated will stand by him.
Are you serious.Quote:
Originally Posted by GloHole
Tamara Lich is a board director of the Maverick Party, a federal political party based in Western Canada.
Yeah no political connection?
BTW this is a separatist party.
And not the only one with political connections.
Funny thing is the trucker connections are not that good.
I’ve been watching these protests live through YouTube and various media outlets and there’s one thing I notice. Why are there no noticeable minorities in the crowd? Also have noticed some people walking through the area still wearing masks.
Another thing that struck me as ironic is how they chant “freedom” over and over, but were you not in a democratic country, would you be free to protest?