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I personally dont know anyone that uses buckshot since the 80-90s using SSG's
I have no issues with buck shot, As long as used in its limitations. I bet most people think deer are closer than what they are and get buck fever and make bad shots and blame it on the ammo. I've personally debated buying some and trying as I'm always a dogger up north and any shooting I do is usually close and quick.
Lots of reasons to use buckshot in heavy cover, 1 slug being deflected and wounding vs 9-15 pellets with maybe 3-4 being deflected.Quote:
Originally Posted by kk1
Lots of people claim they see deer shot with arrow wounds and that bows should be illegal. Guys come on here every year and say how a 30-30 is too small for deer. A 20ga slug has been beaten down as useless and should be banned.
Use whatever you want within its limitations and your limitations and it will be fine, buckshot kills and it does a very good job.
Pattern it and know your range.Quote:
Originally Posted by SongDog
Try the Federal Controlled Was stuff, I cannot stress those wads enough.
Try them in an improved cylinder gun and try attached wad slugs as well, like the Winchester Rack Master, Federal True Ball or Challenger slugs, you should be able to setup a very nice slug/buckshot combo that you can load OO Buck in the thick swamp then swap to slugs when you get into a more open area.
If you are shooting a vent rib gun without sights Williams sells a clamp on sight for the rib that is wonderful, adjustable for windage and elevation, it is a fiber optic sight too.
You owe it to the animal to make it quick and clean. Again if its 30 yards hammer it with a slug. Seems every 2nd deer i butcher has buckshot in it from old wounds. Learn to shoot slugs your far better off. Seldom will you see a good blood trail from buckshot. I wouldnt raise this argument without good reason.
I have killed deer with slugs and buckshot, actually jumped one that was wounded in the gut by a slug and killed it with buckshot.Quote:
Originally Posted by kk1
Yes buckshot can be bad, a slug can also be bad, so can a bow and a 300 win mag, you do not have to use buckshot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41wBr7-QQlI
I think that the bottom line is, if it's close enough for ssg then why not use a slug that's more effective. Even with ssgs you shouldn't be shooting through thick brush in the hope that you hit the deer. If its not a good shot to take then don't shoot. It's common sense.
No doubt a bad shot is a bad shot. Although you will be far more likely to recover a deer hit with slug verses buckshot. You said it yourself your worried about deflection. I personally completely disagree with the spray and pray attitude. I had the sound off for that video. I do find it very odd why you would even think about using buckshot in that particular situation. I mean the deer is in a wide open field. Yes he put it down but to me not worth the risk of using buckshot. A well placed slug would put that deer down on the spot. I understand some will never change there minds about buckshot. I just find slugs to be far more superior producing more humane kills and much easier recoverys. Jmho
You really had to have the sound on for that video, the guy goes through all of his reasoning for everything, he does really good videos with the pros and cons of all of his decisions, very calculated.Quote:
Originally Posted by kk1
I did not mean spray and pray, I meant a shot on a moving animal in thick crap, I have shot more deer jumped moving quick than standing in a field, just my luck I guess.
The slugs in the brush I have watched trees fall, aimed right on them and 1 deflection, close range, did not happen with buckshot.
I found the reference to buckshot being the only thing legal, southern states when pushed by dogs in drives, probably due to populated areas.
Check out the videos by bubbaroundtree Productions. They hunt deer in front of dogs and man drivers . Thu have laws that are buck shot only
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Originally Posted by fieldtrip
Exactly....slugs are not always the best choice. Hunters (especial doggers) feel it's safer to use buckshot. Some hunt camps are in built up areas and with the hunters/dogs on the drive in close proximity, they may NOT use slugs for safety concerns.Quote:
Originally Posted by dutchhunter
Can 't figure out why guys feel the need to tell others what they are doing is wrong without considering the reasoning behind the choices made.