MNRF cuts.

Forcing people to work in a certain area........ sounds like communism to me.

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

Forcing people to work in a certain area........ sounds like communism to me.

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If it comes to that you are correct. Far better to make it worth their while and have them chose to live in those communities. If it takes more money as an incentive than so be it. All for balancing the budget but some things should not be cut unless there is concrete evidence of "fat."

Like the so called gravy train, that rob ford said he would find in Toronto....but never did. His bro.......same thing provincially.

If you subsidize a doctors salaries or education in any way then I can see them being forced to work in an area at least for a few years. Obviously doctors do not want to live or have a practice in the north otherwise we'd have a lot more willing to come here and stay awhile. Its probably much easier to establish a practice in the south where the bulk of the population is. Money too is an issue as doctors are getting educated in Canada then soon migrate to the States.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

Just to be clear,Teachers are paid for the two months off plus all the "PA" days,winter and spring breaks as part of their yearly salary. It's a damn good gig,but,it requires at least one university degree with regular upgrades. Career advancement and salary raises also require extra degrees. Dealing with children to young adults within a "politically correct" system can have a very high degree of "burnout",not to mention cases of PTSD from violence which occurs more on a regular basis,anymore. I sure know I wouldn't want the job.

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Well said and very accurate! Tx

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Originally Posted by MarkB

My grandfather started his own business, and was successful. So did my dad. So did all my uncles. Of all of them, only one had a high school education ... the rest didn't even finish elementary school, but they did well because they worked hard and had common sense.

The principle of a union is good, to protect the employee ... but if you're going to sit and tell me there isn't abuse by unions ... right. I think the unions have too much power now, and so it's hard for the company owners to survive nowadays. Yes, most of my uncles decided to sell to bigger corps, and some of the reason given ... the unions are making it overly difficult for them to operate successfully. This isn't make believe stuff ... it's real information, from real people.

So, if there was a good balance of power between unions and business owners ... sure, it works. But like everything else, human nature will see that greed and power hunger work against the very principles they are created to protect.

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The trick is to treat your employees as well as those in a union shop. Most workers don't want to unionize IMO. If they are being treated fairly I think the employer can avoid unions although they certainly are aggressive in their efforts. Lindmar, Toyota, Honda, etc seem to have avoided unionizing. Not sure how though?

My sister comes down to London from Thunder Bay for pacemaker surgery. Her and her friend are covered for flights, meals, accomodations, taxis, etc. People from the owen sound area travel to London for the same type of treatment. NO subsidy! I realize it's expensive to travel but Southerners need to travel 3 hours for treatment as well and there's no government help.

Well, let us know when you can travel from Thunder Bay to TO in 3 hours w/o having to book a flight or having to stay over 3 nights in a hotel. That individual paid the same for hospital services during their career as did the person from the south. If government can't provide health services in the north then a patients trip should darn well be subsidized.

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Originally Posted by sawbill

Well, let us know when you can travel from Thunder Bay to TO in 3 hours w/o having to book a flight or having to stay over 3 nights in a hotel. That individual paid the same for hospital services during their career as did the person from the south. If government can't provide health services in the north then a patients trip should darn well be subsidized.

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Probably cheaper to subsidize travel expenses than funding the necessary specialist health care providers permanently up north.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

Just to be clear,Teachers are paid for the two months off plus all the "PA" days,winter and spring breaks as part of their yearly salary. It's a damn good gig,but,it requires at least one university degree with regular upgrades. Career advancement and salary raises also require extra degrees. Dealing with children to young adults within a "politically correct" system can have a very high degree of "burnout",not to mention cases of PTSD from violence which occurs more on a regular basis,anymore. I sure know I wouldn't want the job.

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Just to be clear, teachers PA days, are paid, but they are at work for those days, it's not a day off for them, and the 2 months off, they get paid for those 2 months off by having their pay cut through out the year and given back to them for those 2 months while off, and when they retire, their benefits stop also