When do ethics out weigh the law

And if the deer had 14 points, would that change the outcome.?

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Originally Posted by kk1

Real funny to have conscience! If you screw up a shot do all you can to finish the job! You owe it to the animal!

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I have never put myself in that situation over 30years. If I ever did, I sure wouldn't continue hunting at night to finish it off.

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Fish food how is it you seem to know all the details of this case when you weren't even there. You put alot of speculation into an incident you were not even involved in. By all means shoot or spear your big game at night if your not capable of doing it during daylight hours sounds reasonable. I'm sure your local CO will be totally understanding when meets you at your vehicle in the dark...lol

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I didn't speculate anything just going what was first posted.

And you thinking that you cannot be charged for leaving it,but he can.

It is a tricky situation either options are a no no but what do you do? Our debate is can or can you not be charged for it. That's between you and I your saying its false. A spoiled deer is a spoiled deer if you are fully aware of it and could of gotten it. And with this case they could of totally gotten the next day without any issues


The answer is yes..

Different stories same time no .

But when he willing walked away from HIS wounded deer to spoil he broke the law, if that deer does spoil.


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I think that the important thing is to put the animal out of it's misery, the meat going to waste is secondary. It's simple ethics and morals.

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

I have never put myself in that situation over 30years. If I ever did, I sure wouldn't continue hunting at night to finish it off.

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Congrats on your 30yrs! . If it did ever happen.I really hope if you got close enough you would at least have the respect/decency to finish it off with or without a gun.

Canadian man30

Bottom line and we sill settle this.
We know you would not have taken the dark shot . But would you not go back in the morning?. Yes its fine to leave it out over night, but wouldn't you go and recover it in the morning. ?

At most that would be a major priority in the morning for most people. This happens all the time and you get your deer, and yes you are right lol. That's totally legal lol.

The problem is here is that they failed when they decided not to go back and recover it in the morning. That's the problem. Especially when they knew exactly where it would be . If it can't move with a few guys standing around it ,it wont be far in the morning. Or in the exact same spot. Their mind was mad up before the even left the site that it was a goner .



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Originally Posted by fishfood

Canadian man30

Bottom line and we sill settle this.
We know you would not have taken the dark shot . But would you not go back in the morning?. Yes its fine to leave it out over night, but wouldn't you go and recover it in the morning. ?

At most that would be a major priority in the morning for most people. This happens all the time and you get your deer, and yes you are right lol. That's totally legal lol.

The problem is here is that they failed when they decided not to go back and recover it in the morning. That's the problem. Especially when they knew exactly where it would be . If it can't move with a few guys standing around it ,it wont be far in the morning. Or in the exact same spot. Their mind was mad up before the even left the site that it was a goner .



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I respectfully disagree. If your that close and you have help, finish it off. Dont let that animal suffer anymore than it has to. The 100yrd rule works well imho. Big difference if you havnt laid eyes on the animal. Then its best to pull out and come back in the am.

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Originally Posted by kk1

I respectfully disagree. If your that close and you have help, finish it off. Dont let that animal suffer anymore than it has to. The 100yrd rule works well imho. Big difference if you havnt laid eyes on the animal. Then its best to pull out and come back in the am.

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You are right .
I know I would of taken it when it was found. Even if there was no other way other than to fire off the last shot. . The suffering is the worst not good . Expire the dnm thing.

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Originally Posted by kk1

These guys are total scumbags. Who could leave an animal in that condition to suffer? Finish the job. You would think multiple guys could come up with some sort of idea on how to put this animal out of its misery. This is just plain sad if its true.

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Yes it is sad...I wish I had of called it in when I walked out.. and that alonenis starting to piss me off even more that I did not.

If a C.O. was to have been involved I think it's likely charges would have laid. How can they prove they aren't "trophy" hunters and shot at something that wasn't as large as they may have originally thought. In that case the optics of the situation changes, and they left a downed animal in order to preserve a tag. That is poaching.

Also, to assume without checking, that a coyote would get it in the 7-8 hours before being able to go back in the morning is ridiculous. Even in an area heavily populated by coyotes it's not a guarantee that they would get to it. Sometimes gut piles will go untouched for a surprising amount of time.

As hunters we have a due diligence of retrieving our quarry. Abandoning a downed animal is straight up negligent and ignorant.

If it was a 180" buck, the story would have likely had a different outcome. That is sad.