Opinion piece on the Spring Bear hunt

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

It's pretty clear you've not set foot in the places I've been and I suspect the closest you've been to Africa is reading Hemingway. Villagers don't need Mighty White Bwana to get meat. They do like the money because it helps them pay their iPhone bills. Giraffe meat not so much.

What I was doing in Africa was helping advance resource projects contributing to the African economy so that people there didn't have to rely on douchebags from North America who think it's cool to shoot giraffes.

I haven't been on a spring bear hunt or hunted giraffe. There isn't much sport in popping a bear with its head stuffed into a barrel of donuts or driving up to a giraffe and shooting it as it stares at you.

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Well then if you haven’t been to any hunt
And trying to speak that you know your stuff you just blow air out of your mouth

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

The portion of the article that is correct is this one.



The spring bear hunt isn't about meat it's about money. The bears are just coming out of hibernation and have less meat on them than later in the year. What they do have however is luxurious fur that hasn't been rubbed against trees.

Fatass Americans and Europeans come to Ontario, outfitters stick them in a stand, fill a barrel with stale donuts from Timmies and a hungry bear gets blasted so Bubba or Fritz can get a rug. Maybe the meat gets fed to the dogs.

It's the same as the losers who go to Africa and shoot a giraffe. The meat isn't particularly desirable, they are easy to hunt and kill and the hides are quite popular.

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That Sir is very harsh.
Are we not on a hunting forum?
Many hunting methods are discuss on this site and I love reading about it even though some are not for me. I do respect anyone participating in a legal hunt.
Me and my daughter will be hunting bear this spring, we don’t care for the fur but are looking forward to great tasting back-strap and roast.
I thought that’s what it was all about???

Let’s state some facts here
How much money was your contribution last year to South Africa Badenoch?
You know the people that you call DOUCHEBAG how much was there contributions

This research determines the economic impact of trophy hunting in South Africa.

Trophy hunters spend US$250 million per annum in the country.

The impact of this spending on production in the economy is US$341 million.

The agricultural and manufacturing sectors benefit the most from trophy hunting.

Trophy hunting supports more than 17 000 employment opportunities.

Well let me just say that I would proudly hunt with a goof, d-bag, loser or fatass before I would hunt with an elitist SOB.

Must be lonely being the best.

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Originally Posted by skull

Let’s state some facts here
How much money was your contribution last year to South Africa Badenoch?
You know the people that you call DOUCHEBAG how much was there contributions

This research determines the economic impact of trophy hunting in South Africa.

Trophy hunters spend US$250 million per annum in the country.

The impact of this spending on production in the economy is US$341 million.

The agricultural and manufacturing sectors benefit the most from trophy hunting.

Trophy hunting supports more than 17 000 employment opportunities.

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My industry? Just a teeny bit more than trophy hunters.

https://www.mineralscouncil.org.za/sa-mining

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KEY MINING FACTS:

• In 2018 the mining sector contributed R351 billion to the South African gross domestic product (GDP) (USD
  $23 Billion)
• A total of 456,438 people were employed in the mining sector in 2018
• Each person employed in the mining sector has up to nine indirect dependants
• The mining sector has, for many years, attracted valuable foreign direct investment to South Africa

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Many of the mine employees I worked with in SA and Nam were avid hunters, some were part-time PH, others owned farms and hosted hunts. Very educational and entertaining group.

Too bad you can’t share your great experiences without insulting others. People might actually listen to you if you could

But you have clearly demonstrated your true colours so I’m out

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

My industry? Just a teeny bit more than trophy hunters.

https://www.mineralscouncil.org.za/sa-mining

Many of the mine employees I worked with in SA and Nam were avid hunters, some were part-time PH, others owned farms and hosted hunts. Very educational and entertaining group.

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Is about time you go do something useful
To bad for you that don’t know nothing about hunting
And still pretending that you know
You should thank your ancestor that hunted to survive
That’s the reason that you’re alive today
That’s how we are here today thanks to our ancestors for their great way of hunting

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

My industry? Just a teeny bit more than trophy hunters.

https://www.mineralscouncil.org.za/sa-mining
KEY MINING FACTS:
In 2018 the mining sector contributed R351 billion to the South African gross domestic product (GDP)(USD
$23 Billion)A total of456,438 people were employed in the mining sectorin 2018Each person employed in the mining sector has up to nine indirect dependantsThe mining sector has, for many years, attracted valuable foreign direct investment to South Africa

any of the mine employees I worked with in SA and Nam were avid hunters, some were part-time PH, others owned farms and hosted hunts. Very educational and entertaining group.

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So what you are saying is that you are part of the large Corporations that are raping African Countries of their wealth and resources by paying off corrupt Governments. Paying mercenary groups for pushing Tribes off their traditional home lands, by beating or murdering them. So that you can poison the water and destroy the land by stripping it to the rocks, and leave behind huge holes and piles of slug, plus wastewater ponds that well forever leech toxic chemicals into the lands.

But that's ok, you still feel you have a moral right to call other names for hunting.

But hey, what ever lets you sleep at night...

( Is that better Sawbill?)

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Originally Posted by Snowwalker

It would seem that you are mis-informed, or simply making false statements to cause trouble.

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BINGO, we have a winner!!

For those of you that managed to stay on topic I appreciate the input.

I'd have to agree that the article certainly appears to be written by someone living in the Southern regions of the province as he shares much of the anecdotal (and empirically false) evidence I have heard from other folks living in the urban south (although certainly I have met many who understand these issues for what they really are).

Although there is much I disagree with when it comes to the Ford government, it seems to me that the MNRF has developed somewhat of a backbone to stand behind scientific data since the conservatives took power. Evidence of this was this move to reinstate the spring bear hunt, while simultaneously taking an indepth look at the failing bear population of the Bruce Peninsula and what could be done there (including limiting hunting opportunities) to fix that. A government that is willing to look both hunters and anti-hunters in the eye and state a path forward that is in the best interests of our resources and not the special interests of either group is at the very least, making one right decision.