Gun ban talks back after a sad weekend in NS

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

You lost we won,simple,get over it.

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Every time you point out facts to Gilroy...this is what I picture :

https://i.imgur.com/P2zO5L4m.jpg

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Originally Posted by MikePal

Every time you point out facts to Gilroy...this is what I picture :

https://i.imgur.com/P2zO5L4m.jpg

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That’s worth repeating

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Originally Posted by Bluebulldog

Silly Mike,

Why point out facts like a 35% success rate, when to some posters a vote that wasn't for Conservatives, was indirectly a vote for their party anyhow.

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It drives me crazy every time JT says "Canadians gave us a mandate" ....I hardly think 32% of the voters speak for the majority that didn't vote for him. Delusional comes to mind.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

It drives me crazy every time JT says "Canadians gave us a mandate" ....I hardly think 32% of the voters speak for the majority that didn't vote for him. Delusional comes to mind.

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He was indeed given a mandate and if you do not like the voting system,first past the post,most seats count then change the system.

I believe previous Conservative Governments had these numbers but they did not say 'Wow we can't form a Government our overall numbers of seats are low".

The reality in Canada today is that the Liberals and NDP will have the votes to pass any legislation needed. The fact that its from two similar parties is irrelevant, they collectively represent numbers of seats and numbers of voters.

Stephen Harper	Conservative	39th	124 of 308 (31 short)	2006–2008	2 years, 207 days
3	Stephen Harper	Conservative	40th	143 of 308 (12 short)	2008–2011	2 years, 142 days

Stephen Harper

Conservative

39th

124 of 308 (31 short)

2006–2008

2 years, 207 days

Justin Trudeau (incumbent)

Liberal

43rd

157 of 338 (13 short)

2019–present

135 days

Let me refresh your memory. Yes you do think these semi auto's that look like military guns are more powerful even thought they are mostly 223 what many use for Yotes. Remember you can add a military stock to many many guns out there. I have a few friends that hunt with theirs for yotes, no more powerful than a Ruger ranch rifle, but I guess the big bad stock makes it super powerful .


"Your memory does NOT serve you well.I only have one semi auto rifle and one semi shotgun.I still do not believe semi,s autos will be banned of the type used for Hunting.

However only a fool would think in today,s climate that semi auto assault type rifles will fly under the radar especially if they can be converted.These guns to me are useless for hunting and seem to appeal to the weekend warriors out there. "

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Greatwhite,

Are you in favor of banning guns knowing it will not and would not prevent these problems?

Reply. I can hardly be in favor of banning guns,when I own guns.

Do you still believe that guns that look like a military gun are super powerful?

Reply.Your usual and long known habit of trying to put word's into people's mouth's continues,I have never made any such statement.

Would it not be better to enforce laws we had? Why did this person have a real RCMP uniform, car and the Police even knew about the car.

Reply.The laws we have are enforced on a daily basis across Canada,check the daily arrest sheets published.
Reply.It is not difficult to obtain a full police uniform and the news reports stated that they have found RCMP insignia on line for sale.
Reply.It is not difficult to obtain a resale authentic police vehicle,they are auctioned off all the time.

It appears he did not have a PAL would knew laws have stopped him? Do criminals decide against getting a gun based on laws?

Reply. This is speculation on your behalf at this time nobody knows if he had a PAL, criminals do what criminals do.

I suspect you will find he may have had a Police issued firearm if so where did he get that?

Reply. Again speculation on your behalf, unless he disarmed the RCMP officer and shot her with her own guns,as was alluded to by a previous Moderator on the forum and reported on U.S. news.

You know yourself the Police have lost guns.

Reply. Yes Police officers have lost guns,military have lost guns,individual gun owners have lost gun's, what is you point?


Maybe a good start would be 25 years prison for any officer who looses their gun. I am 150% you would agree to a law like that.

Reply. If you feel that is a good idea but you must realize the law would be fair and apply to all losing their guns or it would not pass or if it did would be struck down by the Supreme Court. So in that case I could not agree with you as no such law would ever be passed by Parliament.

Please tell what laws of Trudeau's make sense.

Reply. Well as a learned scholar of the Canadian Parliamentary system you will be aware that Prime Minister Trudeau does not pass laws.Laws are passed by Parliament and the Senate and reflect the values of the Canadian Public who vote in the members of Parliament.


How about we make it illegal to own a firearm without a license LOL (Trudeau actually thought you could).

Reply. There are provisions in the law ie inheritance where one can temporarily own a firearm without a license.Police officers,customs officers,military none of them own a license,plenty of exemptions in the law.

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I can see you have written another opinion above but this hardly qualifies as you refreshing my memory.If your going to try a put words out there I did not speak forget about it.

If you can post any of my past posts that accurately reflect what you think I might have said, fire away.Talking in circle,s is not a particularly useful exercise.

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Originally Posted by fishfood

He said thos exact words when asked an
Bout there f up in this pandemic. He was asked a question about a decision they made with the WHO he instantly said he will not answer the question on his decision and moved on to the next question.

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Right. So when the question is about questionable government conduct, he defers to “now is not the time, we are here for the families” but when the issue suits his priority list, we hear “oh don’t worry we are ALL over this one, action is coming from your government!”

No class.

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Originally Posted by MikePal

Remember , over 65% of the 'Canadian Public' did NOT vote for them or give them a mandate to institute tougher gun control measures.

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Originally Posted by Bluebulldog

Silly Mike,

Why point out facts like a 35% success rate, when to some posters a vote that wasn't for Conservatives, was indirectly a vote for their party anyhow.

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Just the facts lad,s, just the facts..............LOL

The Conservatives won 124 (or 40.3% of the total) seats in the House of Commons of Canada in the 2006 election while receiving 36.3% of the popular vote, and won 143 seats (or 46.4% of the total) in the 2008 election while receiving 37.7% of the popular vote.

So really not a great deal of difference in the popular vote.

[COLOR=#000000]Even though they won 36 fewer seats than the Liberals, the Conservative Party won the greatest share of ballots cast with 6,155,662 votes, or 34.4 per cent of the popular vote.
[COLOR=#000000]For their part, the Liberals secured 5,915,950 votes, or 33.1 per cent of the popular vote.

https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...assault+rifles

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

I can see you have written another opinion above but this hardly qualifies as you refreshing my memory.If your going to try a put words out there I did not speak forget about it.

If you can post any of my past posts that accurately reflect what you think I might have said, fire away.Talking in circle,s is not a particularly useful exercise.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

He was indeed given a mandate and if you do not like the voting system,first past the post,most seats count then change the system.

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I think your selective memory is getting in the way of facts, again: ...Trudeau ran on a promise to abolish the 'first past the post' way to govern...in fact many people from Western Canada actually voted for him on that platform.

What happened..well he found out that the majority of Canadain's under equal representation would not give a mandate to the Liberals....so he reneged on the promise. Ergo not a single Liberal has a seat west of Kenora in the last election.

Same with Gun Control...he was afraid to introduce it under a minority Government because he would very well face a vote of non-confidence. That is why he 's despicably now going to use the deaths of the folks in NS to sway the NDP and Bloc to support the bill.