Ontora neglected by the OFAH

Well - it seems the thing to do is get after the politicans to do something - and if any one of them doesn't do everything possible to fix this land grab - throw them out of office when the next election comes around - and then make sure the new guy will do something about it - Obama got elected because most of the people wanted him at the time - we are stuck with him for 4 years when he is elected - our representatives are elected every 2 years - if they don't satify the voters - out they go - and they know it - that's why they are always trying to get imput from you - senators are elected every 4 years -

Well Joe,

Its kinda like this, you decide to go on a hunting trip on Public Land in the U.S.A. You take a trip to scout the place out in the summer and see signs of Elk,Deer, whatever.You go back in the fall and find a sign over the road going into the public land which states the road is closed for the first two weeks of the gun season to the American Public.Then you find out that Canadian hunters
who are willing to pay a fee to have exclusive hunting rights for the first two weeks are in there hunting and your locked out.

Some would say this is just old fashioned capitalism.We dont expect to much of our politicians because they constantly disappoint.

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Originally Posted by JoePa

Well - it seems the thing to do is get after the politicans to do something - and if any one of them doesn't do everything possible to fix this land grab - throw them out of office when the next election comes around - and then make sure the new guy will do something about it - Obama got elected because most of the people wanted him at the time - we are stuck with him for 4 years when he is elected - our representatives are elected every 2 years - if they don't satify the voters - out they go - and they know it - that's why they are always trying to get imput from you - senators are elected every 4 years -

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In Ontario the electoral districts are based on population density. If you are more dense (and you have to be to want to live in Toronto), you get more members of parliament. So the more heavily populated areas like Southern Ontario / GTA can easily control what happens in Ontario. You simply can't find members of parliament in Greater Toronto Area that give a crap about what is happening in the North half of the province. There are only 8 members of provincial parliament in Northern Ontario, and an additional 5 members to the south east representing area's that contain significant amounts of crown land. So, in a nutshell you have at best 13 members representing over 50 % of the land mass, while there are 94 members representing the south. Northern Ontario just gets told how things are going to be.

That is why a lot of us feel greatly let down that the OFAH has chosen to not stand up for us on this issue, they are supposed to be our voice with a direct link to communicating with our government.

Has anyone who has contacted the OFAH on this topic received a response yet?

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Originally Posted by bhanley

Has anyone who has contacted the OFAH on this topic received a response yet?

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Nope! Not yet from anyone. I'll re-send them. If I still don't hear back,we'll have our answers.

I think too if enough of us send email to talk show hosts in Toronto.. Maybe someone will pick it up.. They brought in the cottage thing.. With tank testing..

Call them and ask to speak to.........
Leave a message for them to call you back.

That's what I did and I received a call back from an executive at the OFAH on the bear issue about 7 years ago. When I was told from them that the spring bear hunt was now a dead issue. Just saying you might get an answer you might not like.

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Originally Posted by bigr

Call them and ask to speak to.........
Leave a message for them to call you back.

That's what I did and I received a call back from an executive at the OFAH on the bear issue about 7 years ago. When I was told from them that the spring bear hunt was now a dead issue. Just saying you might get an answer you might not like.

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It's the answers we want. Whether or not we like it doesn't matter. It's what we do, after, that matters.

Here is a part of a letter i found..

We agree that OFAH has said much about the need for better public access on your website, and lately also in your OOD magazine. Our question was simply, how can you postulate increased public access as a “core priority for OFAH” when your recommendations to the MNR support 1 Km buffer zones around “remote tourist” lakes which effectively denies access to ordinary citizens, (the overlapping of these buffer zones also denies access to other lakes not reserved for remote tourism), support decommissioning of forestry roads and the removal of culverts and bridges, and by extension, the continued monopoly of the remote tourism industry of our natural heritage. The MNR is now also prohibiting use of trappers’ and portage trails that have been in existence since the earlier days of the fur trade.
Apart from a few tweaks and a couple of exceptions, OFAH supports most of the MNR’s and NOTO’s status quo on banning access to the general public, in effect, the privatization of over 2,000 lakes for one user group. If your policies on access are as “clear and transparent” as you claim in your reply, then why is it members such as this writer and hundreds of OntORA members who are or were long-time OFAH members, have never been clearly informed of your strong support for the MNR and NOTO’s positions on public access? It comes as a shock to countless OFAH members.
We cannot reply to such arcane innuendos such as your unexplained accusation that OntORA “has repeatedly made inaccurate and misleading public comments about the OFAH and (its) position on access.” The only comments we have made about OFAH and its access policies are the same as those contained in this letter and previous letters to you.

http://www.ofah.org/ofahcomments

scroll down toLand Use/Access Past Postings

then scroll down to
Crown Land Use Harmonization Project (CLUAH)

then read the ofah response sept 1 2011 its a pdf file