Canadian Lodges charging US$

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Originally Posted by JoePa

When I stay at a Canadian lodge and it is time to leave I either pay with a credit card or with dollars - if I pay with dollars they take the exchange rate into account - this is the same with the tolls paid at the bridges - they have one price listed in Canadian dollars and one for U.S. dollars =

When I mentioned that some things are subpar in Canada I didn't mean to bad mouth Canada - far from it - I go there a lot and lived there at one time - often visit friends there - but to be honest you got to realize that certain things are different - just to name a few - when you go to buy something you have less to choose from - healthcare facilities and equipment are for the most part more modern and more available down here - doctors are more readily available - just look at the different in the sizes of BPS and Cabela's stores - their stores are much bigger down here - after all the GDP of the States is around 17% of the world's economy while Canada's is 2.9 % - that's nothing to ashamed of - its just the way things are - for $500,000 I can buy a mansion down here - gas, electricity, food, and just about everything is cheaper so there is more money available to buy other things - some say that the average wage in Canada is higher then here in the Sates - that may be true when you average it out which includes a lot of people down here not making much but for people with a trade or college education wages are the same and maybe even higher down here - a lot of Canadian doctors end up down here because they can make a lot more money -

For a person who doesn't think the mentioned things are important and doesn't mind a liberal government then Canada is the place to live - if I lived in Canada it would be in the North country where I can enjoy the remoteness - we do have remote areas here in the states but somehow I never visited them - someday maybe I will - in the meantime - stay healthy and enjoy what you have - Joe

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How can you even compare the two healthcare systems? your right, Americans do have more availability and quicker access to health care - but only those that can afford it and or have decent insurance through their employer. How long will this last with the republicans pushing soo hard for "right to work" legislation in an attempt to bust unions - these unions just happen to negotiate and set the standards for benefits packages? Shrinking the middle class is a recipe for economic problems. The US is becoming a society of haves and have nots. I am not sure how this can be more appealing then a Liberal Canada which is pro labour and pro healthcare. There is no doubt that we pay for it, and pay dearly, but I know my standard of life will remain high in Canada.

oh boy, here we go :)

Toddy, have you run into many medical problems in Cda lately?

Our healthcare is a joke.
Especially when you consider how heavily we are taxed. I wont bore you with details of some crap I went through with my cancer..or the 40g ive spent the past 6 years in some uncovered things. .Suffice to say if it ever comes back ( 7 years clean now, so they say Im ok and can actually apply for insurance again) I will be flying to the states and paying out of my own pocket for care. As some of my co-workers have.
But really all you need to do is read the news or google the thousands and thousands of outright horror stories of people waiting months and months, or this, or that.....

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The US is becoming a society of haves and have nots

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So are we....


Don't believe everything you hear about the states, or how "great things are here".
Perhaps you'd like to meet my co-worker who was diagnosed as terminal and given 2 years.......Then on the advice of a friend went to the Mayo clinic for another opinion, not cheap that but when its your life, whats money...He was flipping fine, the problem was the equipment the Hosptial here in TO used to diagnos. Oh they offered him a lot of money to settle out of court...he settled for $0.01.
Told the hospital to use the rest to buy new equipement...He's sitting 10 feet away from me, I can get him to chime in.

Just....scratching....the...surface
http://www.morenurses.ca/issues-statistics/

Reality.
Both Canada and the US have very good things and well.....problems. Utopia would probably exist somewhere in the middle.

Back on topic.
honestly guys, it doesn't matter. They cant refuse Cdn funds. They might list US on their site...Ask them what the Cdn is If your interested in going..if your ok with the price put down a deposit in CDN funds....done. Or if you don't like them advertising in US do as the OP did and pass them, keep looking

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Originally Posted by JBen

oh boy, here we go :)

Toddy, have you run into many medical problems in Cda lately?

Our healthcare is a joke.
Especially when you consider how heavily we are taxed. I wont bore you with details of some crap I went through with my cancer..or the 40g ive spent the past 6 years in some uncovered things. .Suffice to say if it ever comes back ( 7 years clean now, so they say Im ok and can actually apply for insurance again) I will be flying to the states and paying out of my own pocket for care. As some of my co-workers have.
But really all you need to do is read the news or google the thousands and thousands of outright horror stories of people waiting months and months, or this, or that.....


So are we....


Don't believe everything you hear about the states, or how "great things are here".
Perhaps you'd like to meet my co-worker who was diagnosed as terminal and given 2 years.......Then on the advice of a friend went to the Mayo clinic for another opinion, not cheap that but when its your life, whats money...He was flipping fine, the problem was the equipment the Hosptial here in TO used to diagnos. Oh they offered him a lot of money to settle out of court...he settled for $0.01.
Told the hospital to use the rest to buy new equipement...He's sitting 10 feet away from me, I can get him to chime in.

Just....scratching....the...surface
http://www.morenurses.ca/issues-statistics/

Reality.
Both Canada and the US have very good things and well.....problems. Utopia would probably exist somewhere in the middle.

Back on topic.
honestly guys, it doesn't matter. They cant refuse Cdn funds. They might list US on their site...Ask them what the Cdn is If your interested in going..if your ok with the price put down a deposit in CDN funds....done. Or if you don't like them advertising in US do as the OP did and pass them, keep looking

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Just thought I would keep the pot simmering ;)

I didn't actually say in my post that our healthcare system was better or efficient - I just said you can't compare the two - and I also said we pay dearly for what we have.

lol :)

You are right there, that's for sure. Despite how similar we are, we have different systems that really make grass is greener comparisons near impossible. Will say only, our healthcare is not what it used to be, or the great thing we believe it to be...and its only when you run into, or a loved one runs into the very many cracks, some quite wide that we start realizing it. I personally know 3 people that have gone to the states despite A) being taxed to the teeth for care here and B) "Free" here for different things/reasons. I "if" I ever find myself in that situation again, I will to.

I know this is continuing to be off the OP topic but I just don't see where you guys constantly complain about health care. I needed a heart valve replaced and didn't wait. They actually rebooked two weeks later than original so I could get my bear hunt in. All follow up was immediate. And when I needed some repair work for an infection, I had a bed that night.
A few months ago I had an operation to repair hearing in one ear. That was an overnight in the hospital. Again, no waiting and 2 follow up sessions went flawlessly. No waiting.
Dental, same thing. Work was done and appointments were made in respectable times with the exception of a cracked tooth over the Christmas holiday. I had to wait a week.
I've paid all my life into a medical plan and simply learned to live without those funds.
Now that people are living longer and more medical procedures are being required, you have to be reasonable and expect some wait times.
I guess I`m not one to whine when things aren`t exactly perfect.

I'll add this as well. While in Florida last winter I met an elderly American gent who was complaining about Canada's health system. It seems he was buying his meds from Canada because they were much cheaper but he was complaining that the postal service was so slow that delivery schedule was off by as much as a week. Complain, complain complain.

14 month of hemoragging every day, and botched biopsy before they diagnosed my tumor. 4 more months before it was removed.
Know for a fact another poster here went through something similar. You find that acceptable?
My co-worker...
Lyme and all the problems there?

Im trying to find the story that broke just last week of a guy that went to a hosptipal with a serious condition...They had a surgeon who was more than qualified to do the operation but it had been delisted at that hospital....So he was sent to a different hospital.DOA
Would you like to tell his family how good healthcare is here?

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There are serious problems Sawbill, given how we pay in taxes.
Ontario rakes 120b in revenue each year, half of that goes to healthcare...
and yet.........

True enough sawbill, I'm sure there are horror stories a plenty everywhere. Just like I'm equally sure if your pockets are deep enough you can fly around the world and get better care then here. My most recent experience was very positive, my Mother-in-law broke her hip on a Friday at noon she got a hip replacement Saturday at 2pm, I was impressed with that response.

Let me know when it takes 14 months to diagnose your tumor Idub. Or your child...or as with the guy last week...

Or simply 17 people (I think?) that died under Orng.

"If pockets are deep enough"
What if they aren't?

We are taxed heavily, and we often hold up our healthcare system and wave it around like some....when in fact there cracks, and yes horror stories. More and more of them.

If pockets aren't deep enough, then you get what you get, and at least in Canada you get something. Could you imagine being poor in the states without insurance.