Owning a Hunting property YES or NO ?

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

OK so you send me a copy of what affects YOUR area how about the rest of it.Educate yourself by reading this link from the OFAH.

http://www.algonquinlandclaim.ca/maps.php

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From the OFAH piece.

"There are 200 parcels of Crown land ranging in size from a few acres to more than 30,000 acres that will no longer be available to the public."

These are the areas marked in red, on every map.

It isn't a wholesale granting of all the land outlined by the purple outline spanning several counties. Far from it.

Persons having interests within any of the marked areas have also received written notification of same.

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Originally Posted by Bluebulldog

From the OFAH piece.

"There are 200 parcels of Crown land ranging in size from a few acres to more than 30,000 acres that will no longer be available to the public."

These are the areas marked in red, on every map.

It isn't a wholesale granting of all the land outlined by the purple outline spanning several counties. Far from it.

Persons having interests within any of the marked areas have also received written notification of same.

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I think I will stick with the OFAH and their fear mongering, after all we went from 200 original claimants to now 10,000. We have also had mention a much larger land claim and new Parks they want created and included.

So I will stick to my original advice, buy land for hunting if you can, because where you hunt now might be gone in the near future.

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Well my feeling about the FN is f*#k them. I'm sick of FN wanting more and more and our government bending over for them. When is enough enough? I say make them pay taxes and work for their money like everyone else in this country. And if they want more land, than they can buy land like the rest of us do. I'm sick of their BS

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As much as I appreciate how they looked after white people when we arrived on this continent to survive and I believe they saved Canada from American Invaders and I think they have been very badly treated what with residential schools and so forth.

Some where along the line we are going to bankrupt ourselves if this all continues. I tuned into an old Steven Paikin show where one of the Chiefs stated that if
the land mass they want is not available, they need cash to make up the difference, that is over and above the 500 million already decided.They also will not be paying any taxes on a chunk of the land they are getting.Remember what is already agreed to for land mass is just a starting point.In the same show the Chief
also indicated it might take 2,5 or 30 years to achieve what they want.How much this cost is any body,s business.

It looks like I have paid for my own place and now will have to pay again for Crown land for fellow hunters to continue using after we compensate the Algonquins.

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Originally Posted by Bluebulldog

Good grief Gilroy. Where do you think that map was sourced from?

The only "Crown Land Hunt camps" and public lakes that are effected are any of those lying within any of the red marked areas. It's the same for every map across the claim.

The OFAHs original position on the land claim was very much a bit of fear mongering.

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Not if you hunt the crown land between Algonquin Park and the Ottawa River from North Bay to Renfrew. Slowly we are being squeezed out by lack of tags and limited seasons.

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Originally Posted by DanO

Not if you hunt the crown land between Algonquin Park and the Ottawa River from North Bay to Renfrew. Slowly we are being squeezed out by lack of tags and limited seasons.

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Which has nothing to do with the land claim. As crappy as it is.

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Originally Posted by Bluebulldog

Which has nothing to do with the land claim. As crappy as it is.

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Perhaps not directly but since the resource is being harvest first and foremost by FN which are included in the land claim, the nonFN hunters are faced with virtually no tags and a very short season. The two are linked.

Getting back to the original question- if you find a property and can afford it-BUY IT- the population in Ontario is growing by leaps and bounds- you will never lose your money on that type of investment- bought 150 acres 10 years ago near Bruce county- manage it for deer -had it logged once, built a small cabin and hunt turkey's- yes you get the odd trespasser-poacher-once my cabin was broke into and some items were taken- but it is YOUR place- where a million wonderful memories can be made- with quality deer management- you learn so much and when you tag a big deer it is a real joy-- it is a labour of love- if you find a place that is in your price range buy it! even with fifty acres if you manage it properly plant bedding areas and cover - you can have great deer hunting or dredge a pond out and have great duck hunting etc- good luck!

As a outsider looking in - you can tell me to mind my own business but - it seems that the best thing would be to pay FN enough money to cover the land that would be given to them and don't give them any land - the way things are going now it seems like a mess and no body is going to be happy - especially those who enjoy Ontario's outdoors

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Originally Posted by JoePa

As a outsider looking in - you can tell me to mind my own business but - it seems that the best thing would be to pay FN enough money to cover the land that would be given to them and don't give them any land - the way things are going now it seems like a mess and no body is going to be happy - especially those who enjoy Ontario's outdoors

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The problem is, there will never be enough money and or enough land to give away free to ever satisfy....Why not pay them nothing and tell them to go beat their drum somewhere else, we've heard enough.

This brings up two things - first maybe it would have been better if they didn't help to keep the Americans from taking over Ontario - just think you guys could be yanks today with all the benefits - the other thing - we had treaties with the Indians years ago but kept breaking them - after all - treaties are made to be broken - kinda like a marriage and divorce