hunting niagra conservation areas

So doing a little look around and found an interesting conundrum. Seems hunting is allowed at several niagra conservation areas however there is a restriction on dogs.
As I read the rules retrievers are allowed however all other hunting dogs must be on leash. So who came up with that rule? anyone hunt there and can verify if thats true?
Can't see hunting my dogs on leash. It effectively eliminates all pointers, flushers and beagles. :confused:
https://npca.ca/images/uploads/commo..._2020_-web.pdf

Retrievers are flushers first ,retrievers second

Just teach your setters to retrieve and you're all set :)

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Originally Posted by Couliewalker

Retrievers are flushers first ,retrievers second

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As the policy reads
• Retrieval dogs for waterfowl hunting only. No other use of
hunting dogs permitted, to prevent disturbance of other
animals and hunters.
So flushing not allowed

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Originally Posted by vom Dufenshmirtz

Just teach your setters to retrieve and you're all set :)

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she can hold her own
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The regulation reads Retrieval dogs off leash for waterfowl hunting only. Other use of hunting dogs permitted on leash, to prevent disturbance of other animals and hunters.. I wrote them several years ago about this crazed ruled stating that it would be unsafe to hunt with a leashed dog, and further that conservation of game is the retrieval of game after being shot. I told them that they recognized the importance of a dog on water to make retrieves but they failed to recognize land. In addition I see they have raised to administration fee to $40.00 and require a harvest report.. I was responded with a letter that it would be presented to administration. The only users for hunting now are archers for deer. One may note that the Niagara Peninsula Conservation Authority administrator was under fire several years ago and left and was hired by the Niagara Region and it became under fire for hiring practices... Seems to be trend of bad politics in the Niagara Peninsula.

It’s been a politically charged $h!t-show at the NPCA the last several years. The staffer behind the hunting rules has no actual understanding of hunting and no interest in learning. Dogs might be a topic for Niagara area hunters to revisit with the new Board.

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Originally Posted by ninepointer

It’s been a politically charged $h!t-show at the NPCA the last several years. The staffer behind the hunting rules has no actual understanding of hunting and no interest in learning. Dogs might be a topic for Niagara area hunters to revisit with the new Board.

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are you glad you moved??

All that rule does is favour deer hunters . Imagine hunting rabbits with a beagle on a leash. How stupid are people!!!

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Originally Posted by Frank16

All that rule does is favour deer hunters . Imagine hunting rabbits with a beagle on a leash. How stupid are people!!!

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Often it stems from well-intentioned people in positions who wish to minimize disturbance in what are usually critical habitats, especially in a southern Ontario context. Educating them about how hunting dogs are actually used is key.

There are a few thing's in conflict here IMHO that I would point out, firstly the chart for the area clearly states what type of hunting is allowed and where ie small game..

https://npca.ca/images/uploads/commo...bined-2018.pdf

So small game would be allowed in certain area's let say for rabbits with a beagle. According to their chart they also state the following:

"All hunting must be conducted in accordance with provincial and federal hunting regulations"

If rabbit hunting is allowed with a beagle you have followed provincial law.


Next comes their POLICY part which read's for dogs ie a beagle " Other use of hunting dogs permitted on leash, to prevent disturbance of other animals and hunters".

So they will allow you to use a beagle off a leash to hunt rabbits. LOL

Now comes the definition of POLICY that at common law is "A policy is a set of principles to guide actions in order to achieve a goal. A 'government policy', therefore describes an objective or course of action planned by the Government on a particular subject. ... Policies must always comply with existing law"

So their POLICY does not comply with existing Provincial law as it seeks to be" Ultra Vires" of that law.

So what could be the ramifications of hunting with a beagle off leash in one of the area's where you can hunt small game.

I suppose on complaint by a citizen towards such a hunter, the LEO OR CO could lay a charge under the trespass to property act for "engage in prohibited activity on premises" my defense of course was that I was in compliance with provincial law as stated in their chart and did not agree with their POLICY as it was "Ultra Vires" of the existing laws which is in the common law definition "Policies must always comply with existing law".