Just a reminder to complete your report(s) once you are finished big game/wolf hunting.
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Just a reminder to complete your report(s) once you are finished big game/wolf hunting.
Btw was going post on this topic.
It was not clear to me initially, so wanted to confirm. Asked the MNR
Hi,
Every hunter report includes questions about "live XXX seen".
Ie
Number of live bulls seen in this WMU?
Can you please clarify, if this type of question refers to number of animals seen "in-person" or should it include the trailCam sightings ?
Got Answer:
Good morning,
Thank you for your email. When completing your report please only include the animals that you have seen in person. Do not include the animals that you have captured on trail cam.
Regards,
Maybe it's obvious one for some, but hope it helps someone in doubt
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If I see the same doe and twin fawns each day for 5 days, did I see 15 deer or just 3.... Sure can get complicated/confusing without the correct wording.
I count the deer I see. Are they the same deer I have no idea. I'm sure the MNR as a formula that takes things like that into account. if hunting the field and I see a herd of 10 deer each time I'm out and I see them 5 nights, How do I know if they are the same deer a mixture of some of the same and new ones. Or if I'm walking out or in during the daylight and I see deer running through the bush, I don't know if I have seen them before.
If I have ten in front of me which I usually can say I do. 3 moms rest fawns for 10 or more days in a row I’ll call it 5 seen that’s what I’ll report
putting down 50 deer seen is worst than saying only seen 1 in my book
Or as simple as " how many uniquely identifiable deer did you see".Quote:
Originally Posted by fratri
This kinda begs the question about what these questions/stats trying to measure
Is it
hunter kill ratio ( animals seen vs animals taken)?
Why would it matter how many you have seen, the true import metric have many tags had been filled in the end of day
Or
Daylight visits etc..
Or
Animal population estimate? If latter is the case, then why would camera values not be considered. There are millions of reason why hunter world not see animals in person, but it does not mean they are not there..
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I've attended a few MNR Deer seminars and that is exactly what was told to us. The harvest reports aid in accumulating data on population densities. The results trigger the increases in cull (additional tags) in areas to prevent deer/human conflicts when the numbers are too high.Quote:
Originally Posted by newbiehunter
Why would a CO say the data collected from trail cams is irrelevant is not in line with their own mandate.
Relying on a Hunters visual count is the least accurate means at the best of times...I hunt with a camp of 8 guys and most of them don't see a single deer all week yet a couple guys see deer every day of the hunt. In the same bush !! :)
It is pretty simple. Just report the number of deer you see each time out. Don't try to game the system by adjusting for "hidden" fawns, or adjusting for seeing the same deer five times in the last five days or trail cam pics or inflating numbers if you are worried about losing future tags. All you have to do is is report the raw number. By doing that you take a constant approach each season and then the MNR has valuable data to look at long term year over year trends. As soon as you try to outsmart this very simple process it mucks everything up since the interpretation of the data is based on the assumption that hunters are just reporting what they see each day.
Answer the questions as asked.
Don't overthink things.
They don't give a rats behind what your actual answer is, they're looking for trends in the unit (more deer/less deer then years previous)