My Friend

My friend has asked me for his son and himself to come hunting again this year.

I'm not so sure. Last time hunting with them his son was a lazy bum and did nothing. Smoking is NOT allowed in camp, but would smoke outside the main tent and blow smoke in where my wife was doing dishes. My wife is asthmatic so it made her sick. He did a number of minor stuff till he was cruising with his dad and my son. Both "Nick" and my son were sitting in the back of the truck. When they see a doe, they stop and Nick jumps out and kills the doe, and sees another right away and shoots the other. When they get to where he shot the doe, they see two deer, dead. The doe had run off with a very large blood trail. There was another deer in behind the doe and the shot went through mother and killed the yearling behind her. So my son went to track her and found her about a km away. Nick and his father had given up the search after a few hundred yards. The doe was gut shot.

So my son field dressed her and dragged the doe back himself. He found Nick sitting on a tree stump smoking a joint as a celebration. My son dragged the deer back to the truck and loaded it with help from Nick's father.Nice shooting, but he had a tag for one, so my son gave up two of his tags. After all he was the hunter host and was responsible for him and his actions.

The other is when Nicks father and I went to town for supplies, Nick takes off for the day with no one knowing where he was. Rule one in camp is no one leaves camp alone. When Nick's father and I came back we spent the rest of the day searching for him with the rest of the camp. As it turns out he was only 400 yards from camp and thought the whole thing was funny. No one else in camp was amused at all. So back at camp we discuss this, the father of Nick defends him My son had finally had it with Nick and told him that he was being an , so Nick took a swing at my son. My son hit Nick and dropped him on his . Nick's father stepped in and started telling my son how a bad host he is and went on for a few minutes.

Things calm down and we finish the hunt. When they leave they take the three deer Nick shot, and the Buck Nick's father shot. Neither Nick nor his father field dressed any of the deer nor skinned them, but did cut them up to put them in their coolers. My son did not shoot any deer that hunt and only had one tag left.

So would you re-invite them to come out again?

I think you've answered your own question.... No one likes lazy and certainly no one likes a jack___

...a good Christian is taught to ...'forgive past transgressions '.....'turn the other cheek' as it were.....I'd call it glutton for punishment...

emphatic NO !! from a 'burned once twice shy' hunter.

If thats what you call friends, then I'd hate to see your enemies! After reading the first 3 lines of your story I would have determined they were not welcome back again. Follow the rules or follow the road!

Yea I would invite them back. NOT! Are you even serious about this? Not a chance after all that happened. At any of the camps I have been at you pull your own weight and follow the camp rules and respect others or your gone period.

Definitely not Black Wolf! I think you already knew the answer, but it was a good vent. Cheers, Jim

You must be a much nicer guy then myself! LOL.

Don't even consider it. Tell him your boys dont get along and last time you guys dressed up all of his deer.

Simple NO! When hunting together we all got to put in an effort with work, and to get along. If it's not working forget the aggravation.

You should let him and his son read this thread to find out the answer.

Tough spot it should be cut and dry but never is. Normally I would say tell him after the events of last year that you don't care to revisit those stresses for you wife and son as well as yourself - hunt camp is about enjoyment and positive experiences. If your friend doesn't understand explain it the way you did to us or tell him its a difficult decision for you and ask him to read your post and the position you are in. For my oldest and dearest friends I could forgive a couple small transgressions by their kids as they mature but sounds like your friend needs to have a good hard look at how they treated your family last year and if he is incapable of seeing where they went wrong then the decision is much easier -- sorry but no....FB