Big cuts coming to Moose Tags???

I'm hearing rumours that aerial surveys have shown dismal results in some of Ontario's Moose strongholds and drastic cuts to tags are coming for this season. Some areas could get cut as much as 80%. I wish I had more information but my understanding is final numbers have not been set yet.

I'm not too surprised after Minnesota cancelled its Moose hunt last year then from what I heard Moose hunting was not very good in many places last year in Ontario. Is this the end of Moose hunting in Ontario as we know it? With Deer suffering with one of the worst winters in many years its not looking too good for big game hunting in 2014.

I'd believe it . seems every year we need more guys for a guarantee . its getting ridiculous

how can we have a sustainable population when the natives slaughter the moose out of shear spite?

If only everyone actually needed a tag...

Popcorn is popping...just cracked my beer... please proceed to blame all hunting and fishing problems on FN.

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Originally Posted by Fishy Wishy

Popcorn is popping...just cracked my beer... please proceed to blame all hunting and fishing problems on FN.

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Not blaming it entirely on them at all...

But if there is truly a problem with the herds, limiting one group, while still allowing a free for all for another, doesn't seem like sound management strategy.

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Originally Posted by TurkeyRookie

Not blaming it entirely on them at all...

But if there is truly a problem with the herds, limiting one group, while still allowing a free for all for another, doesn't seem like sound management strategy.

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According to Toddc they "slaughter the moose out of shear spite" then you hitched your horse to that wagon.

I have known and grown up with FN as friends and in mentor roles...certainly they never "slaughtered" ANYTHING "out of shear spite"

Will this mean cuts to the number of tags allocated to outfitters too?

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Originally Posted by Fishy Wishy

then you hitched your horse to that wagon.

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Not sure at what point in my statement I jumped on the killing for spite slaughter wagon, but I think my point of cutting back numbers for one group, while still allowing full unrestricted access for another being a poor way to manage things is a far cry from Todc's statement.

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Originally Posted by TurkeyRookie

Not sure at what point in my statement I jumped on the killing for spite slaughter wagon, but I think my point of cutting back numbers for one group, while still allowing full unrestricted access for another being a poor way to manage things is a far cry from Todc's statement.

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With treaties as they are...the province has no power to change that as far as I know...so in planning you gotta include the population killed by FN as they would attribute to other predators like wolves and cougars.

Now I do remember reading about how the idea of unrestricted calf harvest was a bad idea but was part of the negotiation when the current lottery and tags were introduced.