Handgun carrying on your own property? bear defense.

ok so this is purely theoretical. I am aware that you can only legally carry non restricted for predator defense on crown land and such, but does this apply to your own land as well? private property? my dream is to one day go off grid and ive lately been thinking of what i would do for predator defense

So my idea is that when working the land i'd always want something on me for predator defense whether it be coyotes killing livestock i would like to end that coyotes life so he doesnt come back when im gone and kill my whole flock of chickens or whatever.. and if a bear comes on my property for whatever reason and he charges me (i know this is unlikely) i would like him dead as well. so i've been researching short barreled shotguns that would be convenient to carry while working but all i can find are sawed off double/single barrels that are 29 inches long and a mossberg with a pistol grip and no stock that is in the 30'' range. but these would still be pretty noticeable when carrying around, even if i made like a makeshift leg holster for it, i think my carrying leg would get sore after walking with it all day.

but then i thought hey maybe the RCMP is reasonable and they allow you to carry restricted on your own property, but i couldnt find any info on it... ANYBODY KNOW? yeah i know i explained a lot for a simple question, but whatever im bored. also note this doesnt refer to shooting, but just carrying. i doubt ill ever have to shoot it and if i do it means i really had to do it and ill deal with it IF any consequences come my way.. its more likely nobody will hear me. Thanks everybody.

Right now you can carry handguns on your own property IF they are unloaded and in a locked container. I believe prohibs might also need a trigger lock.
Didnt used to be this way. Fifty years ago you could possess a handgun "at your residence or place of bussiness" with no carrying permit. With a carrying permit you could carry pretty well anywhere.... Trudeau, Rock and the Blond put an end to the practice....:angry:

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Originally Posted by new2hunting

ok so this is purely theoretical. I am aware that you can only legally carry non restricted for predator defense on crown land and such, but does this apply to your own land as well? private property? my dream is to one day go off grid and ive lately been thinking of what i would do for predator defense

So my idea is that when working the land i'd always want something on me for predator defense whether it be coyotes killing livestock i would like to end that coyotes life so he doesnt come back when im gone and kill my whole flock of chickens or whatever.. and if a bear comes on my property for whatever reason and he charges me (i know this is unlikely) i would like him dead as well. so i've been researching short barreled shotguns that would be convenient to carry while working but all i can find are sawed off double/single barrels that are 29 inches long and a mossberg with a pistol grip and no stock that is in the 30'' range. but these would still be pretty noticeable when carrying around, even if i made like a makeshift leg holster for it, i think my carrying leg would get sore after walking with it all day.

but then i thought hey maybe the RCMP is reasonable and they allow you to carry restricted on your own property, but i couldnt find any info on it... ANYBODY KNOW? yeah i know i explained a lot for a simple question, but whatever im bored. also note this doesnt refer to shooting, but just carrying. i doubt ill ever have to shoot it and if i do it means i really had to do it and ill deal with it IF any consequences come my way.. its more likely nobody will hear me. Thanks everybody.

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Simple answer - No. Not allowed.
Restricted firearms in Canada are only legally allowed to be fired and visible at a licenced range and transported via locked means mentioned above^^

In order to carry - you can google open carry in Canada and I believe it's Trappers with a ATC permit, police, and your life is in danger where the police are insufficient to help....or something along those lines.

Carry a shotgun. Anything restricted will get you in hot water if you get caught. As in - say goodbye to your firearms for an unknown amount of time.

There are a lot of 18" shotguns available with folding stocks that are less than 30"

Do some research- lots out there.

Ive never....NEVER felt the need to carry while out and about around our property. You're more likely to have an encounter with a bear on your deck after garbage cans or bird feeders then randomly coming across one in the forest.

I grew up playing in the bush, and spent most of my adult life working in the bush, and have zero negative encounters with a bear. I can;t even remember the last time I came across a bear in the bush.

Get a dog. Make noise while you're in the bush. Know what to do in an encounter.

If I could have choice of open carrying a handgun in Toronto for protection, or the backwoods of Canada, I would be choosing Toronto.

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Originally Posted by blasted_saber

Ive never....NEVER felt the need to carry while out and about around our property. You're more likely to have an encounter with a bear on your deck after garbage cans or bird feeders then randomly coming across one in the forest.

I grew up playing in the bush, and spent most of my adult life working in the bush, and have zero negative encounters with a bear. I can;t even remember the last time I came across a bear in the bush.

Get a dog. Make noise while you're in the bush. Know what to do in an encounter.

If I could have choice of open carrying a handgun in Toronto for protection, or the backwoods of Canada, I would be choosing Toronto.

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The sensible answer. And given that there's no need to walk around Toronto with a gun....

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Originally Posted by new2hunting

ok so this is purely theoretical. I am aware that you can only legally carry non restricted for predator defense on crown land and such, but does this apply to your own land as well? private property? my dream is to one day go off grid and ive lately been thinking of what i would do for predator defense

So my idea is that when working the land i'd always want something on me for predator defense whether it be coyotes killing livestock i would like to end that coyotes life so he doesnt come back when im gone and kill my whole flock of chickens or whatever.. and if a bear comes on my property for whatever reason and he charges me (i know this is unlikely) i would like him dead as well. so i've been researching short barreled shotguns that would be convenient to carry while working but all i can find are sawed off double/single barrels that are 29 inches long and a mossberg with a pistol grip and no stock that is in the 30'' range. but these would still be pretty noticeable when carrying around, even if i made like a makeshift leg holster for it, i think my carrying leg would get sore after walking with it all day.

but then i thought hey maybe the RCMP is reasonable and they allow you to carry restricted on your own property, but i couldnt find any info on it... ANYBODY KNOW? yeah i know i explained a lot for a simple question, but whatever im bored. also note this doesnt refer to shooting, but just carrying. i doubt ill ever have to shoot it and if i do it means i really had to do it and ill deal with it IF any consequences come my way.. its more likely nobody will hear me. Thanks everybody.

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Where (generally) is your property and what size? If you need a firearm for predator control,you can't beat a trusty 12ga. or a .22. Handguns are more trouble than they're worth.

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Originally Posted by welsh

The sensible answer. And given that there's no need to walk around Toronto with a gun....

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Than why do cops?
Was getting gas a coyote days ago.. there was an opp officer getting gas at the pump next to me.. (hwy7 and 400) bunch of people left the store and she did nothing... Than a black man.. in his 40s leaves the store.. and the cops hand guess straight to rest on get gun.... hmm.... Interesting...

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Originally Posted by topher

Than why do cops?
Was getting gas a coyote days ago.. there was an opp officer getting gas at the pump next to me.. (hwy7 and 400) bunch of people left the store and she did nothing... Than a black man.. in his 40s leaves the store.. and the cops hand guess straight to rest on get gun.... hmm.... Interesting...

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Maybe,he was "known to police". She may have recognized a badass.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

Maybe,he was "known to police". She may have recognized a badass.

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Lol.. don't it.. the gentleman in question did not look scary.. but was heading in her direction...
Opp are only highway cops down here..

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Originally Posted by topher

Lol.. don't it.. the gentleman in question did not look scary.. but was heading in her direction...
Opp are only highway cops down here..

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Oh,yeah? When did they move your town out of the province of Ontario? LOL He didn't look scary? You're kidding,right?