http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/03...untrys-values/
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I won't add much of any significance to this thread.
I will only ask one to ponder who is really sexist or racist. Imagine what would happen if I was to walk into the local BMO to do my banking wearing a Burka! I have the strange feeling I would be wearing a shiny set of bracelets real quick.
I couldn't care less if you wear a turbin or yamaka, wear bunny ears or tin foil if you like. I feel offended when somebody who isn't even a citizen yet feels they have the right to challenge our laws and beliefs. Would you be comfortable if men were allowed to wear white pointy hoods into banks and airports? I consider the niqab just as offensive as it implies men are incapable of looking at a woman without having uncontrollable urges to molest her. If they want to be slaves in private that is sad but when swearing an oath, boarding a plane or accessing any kind of service that requires identification they should have to confirm photo ID. If they don't like our values then they can go to a country that suits their beliefs better.
Why? I heard you look like a woman anyway.:cool:.. It is not against the law to wear a balaclava.... unless you are using it as a disguise, to commit a crime. Ask a few questions let you go, maybe not, if they find a note ,and or a weapon in your pocket. Since when did the kkk become a recognized religion? Go behind a screen - curtan, show your face to another woman in authority and be on your way, easy peasy. Would you want,(maybe), or let a female cop grab your junk in a pat down, or a male police officer do it to your wife,(bet not), same thing.
Walk onto Parliament hill or an airport or bank with a balaclava and let us know how it works out for you. I have a wife, daughters, sister and live among women. Not once have I felt that a woman should have to hide her face because she is a woman. Clearly you are ok with that. I'm not. We will never agree on this so by all means carry on but it won't change my opinion.
If that article is referring to Harper's stance on forcing people to remove the niqab during swearing in ceremonies to be identified, I agree with him 100% on that one... I think the niqab is despicable, but under the charter you are free to practice beliefs/wear what you want. Having said that during civic engagements, your obligations lie to the state, not religions...
If you want you to separate Christian beliefs from the state(abortion, gay marriage, etc), you have to apply that same standard to all religions including Islam. It's sepatation of church/state period, no exceptions...
Although I agree with Harper on this, I'm not sure this is the best fight to be picking before an election, and he has been playing to the fear of radical Islam and since we've only had 2 "terrorist" attacks by wannabes that were actually French or half french and converts, he's going too far and playing the fear card too much... And JT is just playing extreme suck up politically correct card, sad state of affairs all around...
How showing one's face to confirm ID is the same as a police pat down of my genitals or my wife's is the same to you is ...well bizarre. But in actuality I have no doubt that occasionally a police officer for his or her safety or of the safety of others actually do have to pat down someone of the opposite sex. I'm OK with that too. I trust police to not do stuff like that unless necessary. I also expect to be able to look a police officer in the face and actually see his or her face. Will we have female constables wearing Niqabs now while on duty? All it takes is a few judges to want to give the finger to Harper and all of a sudden it's the law of the land. Because let's cut the Bullsheet here, most people who would support women wearing a Niqab do it mostly in protest to everything Conservative and a woman's human rights are secondary here.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishermccann
Go behind a screen show you face to another woman and all is good. That is all it is about, not banks, parlament, airports. If a religion says no man but the husband or father should see their face so be it. Heck some religions cut skin off the penises of their males and no one bats an eye at that.
Some religions allow multiple wives and marrying of girls who should be playing with dolls not having sex with strangers who are 4 or 5 times their age and picked out by another old man. Religion isn't always an acceptable excuse for barbaric behavior. Hey you like Niqabs and feel they belong in our society that is your right. If you think your wife or daughters can't show their faces in public ...good for you. I don't think you will find many here to agree with you.
Just came across this column.
http://www.torontosun.com/2015/03/14...-trumps-church