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Well, here you go. This isn't a trial balloon. Expect them to move on Toll roads shortly. Once again she fly's us the bird.
http://www.torontosun.com/2015/07/22/lessons-from-hov-lanes-will-make-toll-lanes-easier-wynne
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/ca...nes-wynne-says
It just keeps getting " worser and worser" !!!!!
Truth be told Terry I don't mind this.
Fact: they need the cash. We have known for YEARS where things were heading. Well some did anyways. Funny thing about obviously corrupt admins and inept ones...things tend to blow up......
Fact: they, their friends (unions) and those who support them. Didn't want to listen. Not to common sense, not to Drummond, not to Moody's in 2011. Not to Moody's last May just before the election, and I suspect even now there are still some despite SP and Fitch and even more stuff.
Fact: they refuse to do the hard things. Cut spending, reduce overhead. There are many who refused to see. Voted for them.
Fact: they ignored infrastructure and other things for years, in favour of....that has hampered the recovery (jobs, economic growth). We Need that, THEY need that, unfortunately there's no $$. Why?
This is needed.
The reasons it's needed are another story. At least this will be "optional". Yeah it might grid lock/congest major arteries. Still optional and at the least, many of their friends in the golden TA will be the ones sharing the pain at least a little. I don't ever recall seeing HOV lanes in rural ontario
Welcome to Ontario. No one can say they weren't warned, didn't have a couple chances starting in 2011. Haven't had ample evidence be it Hydro, having to sell Hydro one, raise income tax, "ORPP" and taxing the working stiffs/companies only, raise other fees, traffic tickets, and on and on.
Photo radar is up next. Wait for it......
. I'm really surprised they haven't done that already !!Quote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
It's only a matter of time !
No surprise here either but dont be fooled, this wont be a hov toll lane as there are not enough people using the hov lanes to make it profitable not to mention almost impossible to enforce ( unless the opp get the budget to hire a shyte load more cops to enforce it... see where this is going???) It will be a toll lane plain and simple . While I dispised Mcguinty I really hate this morally bankrupt pos.
Whatever happened to pay-for-use spending/thinking.
I don't mean charge the shyte out of drivers for driving. I mean spend the money collected from say vehicle permits on roads and bridges. Our plate renewals (esp in southern Ontario) keep going up, up up, now they want to charge tolls? I would hope that at least the tolls can be low like the Interstates in NY and not ridiculous like the 407.
Charge the mass transit commuters the true cost to run and expand mass transit, why should we (those living outside of Toronto) subsidize mass transit?
Use hunting and fishing revenue to put gas in the COs truck.
Hey fishy wishy. I like the idea that Torontonians should subsidize their own mass transit. Let's take it one step further and say that Toronto should keep all of the tax revenue it generates. Most of the rest of the province would be back to dirt roads in no time. Good plan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishy Wishy
The LIEbrals will have us all on the bus, they need to clear the roads for the political elite and their union bosses. Message to WHYNNE, bus leaves in 5 minutes, be under it.
Basically removing 20 or 25% of usable traffic lanes in high density areas is beyond crass. These roads are already insufficient to handle the volume that will only increase. She is catering to the elite again. Those with the income or in most cases those with company vehicles and expense accounts. The single income parent who can't afford hockey for his or her kids sure won't have toll money. Toll roads that are built as an alternative to existing ones is an entirely different thing as they don't remove a lane from existing infrastructure. Wynne isn't adding a new option ( which the 407 is, an option) but removing a scarce taxpayer funded asset and giving it to the wealthy. Is this what it means to be "Progressive" ? What next? 2 Tier health care? If you can pay you get better and quicker care? Do people not see how this lieing rodent is fleecing the middle class?