The biggest problem at the camp is that some hunters enjoying trying to control .... the

The biggest problem at the camp is that some hunters enjoying trying to control .... the others ...
that is calling " controlling narcissistic abuse " and when the abused can't take it anymore ...
Then blow up , and fight back .... then they accusing him that he has a problem ...
Also at the camp they don't like confident self-confident person ....
Who can and did hunt by himself .... before ....
Yes he is a trail blazer ....
maybe thats is the other peoples problem ....


But this is going to be a another tread .... now....

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Originally Posted by alfoldivandor

The biggest problem at the camp is that some hunters enjoying trying to control .... the others ...
that is calling " controlling narcissistic abuse " and when the abused can't take it anymore ...
Then blow up , and fight back .... then they accusing him that he has a problem ...
Also at the camp they don't like confident self-confident person ....
Who can and did hunt by himself .... before ....
Yes he is a trail blazer ....
maybe thats is the other peoples problem ....


But this is going to be a another tread .... now....

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Good camps don't have that problem. By your post,it sounds like you've run into one of them,already. If you hunt long enough,you're bound to at some point. Good hunters learn and move on........quickly.:moose:

We have had guys in our camp that have been 'issues' and we send them packing the following year. One invite does not mean you have a life membership. A couple of years back we decided to keep it as a small group of good friends rather than open it up to the numbers and have to deal with these issues. We are now targeting good friends that do not hunt and converting them into hunting - win/win.

We are a group of 5 guys that hunt a 300 acre farm and could really use some more feet on the ground but have found that it is just not worth the hassle of dealing with the issues of guys that do not fit in.

We left a camp because of that, started a new one last year, what a difference. You are on your own schedule, hunt when you want, sleep when you want, just help out cleaning up and getting things ready and pay your equal share based on the number of days you hunt, simple.

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Originally Posted by Fox

We left a camp because of that, started a new one last year, what a difference. You are on your own schedule, hunt when you want, sleep when you want, just help out cleaning up and getting things ready and pay your equal share based on the number of days you hunt, simple.

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Yes sir! We did the same thing. Smaller like minded group makes a huge difference! :)

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Originally Posted by bellerivercrossbowhunter

Yes sir! We did the same thing. Smaller like minded group makes a huge difference! :)

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One owner helps too, all decisions on the property are moot, knocks some stuff off the list.

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Originally Posted by alfoldivandor

The biggest problem at the camp is that some hunters enjoying trying to control .... the others ...
that is calling " controlling narcissistic abuse " and when the abused can't take it anymore ...
Then blow up , and fight back .... then they accusing him that he has a problem ...
Also at the camp they don't like confident self-confident person ....
Who can and did hunt by himself .... before ....
Yes he is a trail blazer ....
maybe thats is the other peoples problem ....


But this is going to be a another tread .... now....

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I have come to the conclusion that hunters are in two groups,serious hunters and vacation hunters.

The serious hunters probably own the camp as they are self starters and end up doing MOST ALL of the work and are truly invested in the land and conservation.

The vacation hunters are the guys who are your buddies for the purpose of hunting their one or two weeks. They are there for the fun of the hunt,are not real interested in working either around the camp and are not invested in the property.They will however make suggestions for improving the camp at the owners cost.LOL

This causes frustration with the owners and resentment because their is a mix/match between the two,the vacation hunters eventually move on to the next camp that will take them in.

Moto of the story is to choose your camp members carefully because they are tricky little beggars,for example they might tell the camp owner they applied for a Doe tag for his area,but behind the owners back,actually applied for another area they intend to hunt later in the season.Use up the camp.s tag,take half the meat and go on to
hunt in another area.They are easy to spot,have the best of gear,ATV,s ,best guns.The camp owners have none of this as they are busy paying for taxes,insurance,road upkeep.

Best solution kick their arses to the curb,enjoy your property you have worked to set up and your success or lack of it is your to own.

Part of it is people just don’t have time to go.

Is it just me, or are the OP and additional posters talking about opposite sides of the coin here? One seems to be saying he is the one who others are trying to control, while other posters seem to be saying that it's o.k. for one person to be in control at the expense of the other? I don't know, maybe there's a language barrier here.
Anyway, I don't hunt as part of a camp, but I think I wouldn't have a problem fitting in. I'm generally easy going when it comes to getting along with others. I don't think I would stick around though if I felt like I was constantly being disrespected, especially if I was trying to be respectful to the others.

We have a simple set of rules to follow.

They respect the landowners, the game to be taken, safety, and all members of the group.

All members including me must also prove their competency with a firearm. They don’t have to be marksmen, just capable of taking 100 yard shots. They know that as they get better, longer watches are available to them.

We also have predator control responsibilities that take priority over the hunt. Coyote walks out it’s done.

It is all explained to new members and they need to not only understand the way we do things but also must agree to abide by it.

First year is probation and part time only - no exceptions. We try them out for fit with the gang. We are serious about putting meat on the table and being punctual and prepared is essential.

There are three core guys in our gang and we own all the stands and sort out the plans for the hunt.

The other fellows have to show up for work weekends and be there for planned activities that help the land owners.

We all know if you don’t show up for those don’t expect to show up for the hunt.

It works well and we all have a good time.