Black Powder Cleaner

I picked up some Hornady One Shot cleaner when I sorted out all my muzzleloader stuff, I was told this stuff was awesome.

Well, I soaked a patch, ran it down the bore, let it sit and then proceeded to use dry patches until the bore came out clean, great, then I wet a patch with bore butter and put that in to season the bore, did what I was supposed to, put it in the cabinet and left it.

Well, I was cleaning a cartridge BP gun yesterday and thought, since I had the BP cleaning gear out I would check the muzzleloader, well, specs of rust in the bore, WTF. I ran another soaked patch down the bore and it came out rust red, let it sit and used dry patches again until they came out clean.

What do others use for cleaning theirs?

I am asking for a cleaner because the hot water trick is a giant pain for my general BP cleaning applications, it may work fine for a 50 cal but a 25 bolt action is a lot tougher to manage.

Thanks

I use TC 's T-17 pre saturated patches,but used same in T-13 as well in the past.
Sometimes the patch is so juicy,i squeeze some out ,to waste.......
Always drying out very carefully the bore before protecting/lubing it with TC Bore Butter patch .
So far so good.

For temporary storage I follow up the cleaning with a patch soaking in Remington Gun Oil, for long term storage I follow up cleaning with a patch lightly coated with breech plug/nipple grease. It has worked well so far but I store my guns in a dry location so that's not a real world test.

I stopped using hot water a few years ago. Hot water opens up the pores in the metal and lets oxidants in. The time it takes between the hot water and the "seasoning" has just caused the seasoning to seal in the oxidants. It is all on a molecular scale but trust me, the rust will happen. No more hot water OR Bore Butter for me. If I have serious fouling I will use Hoppes #9 Black Powder solvent, then cool water with a small amount of Dawn dish soap and rinse with cool water and lots of dry patches and finally some quality gun oil or even WD40. Always store yer BP gun muzzle down to keep any lubricant from gathering in yer touch hole or nipple. ........My .02 on this not gospel......................Daniel

I make my own: 3/4 water, 1/4 ballistol, a few drops of Dawn dish soap. Works for me. Due to its slight alkalinity, Ballistol neutralizes and dissolves black powder and corrosive ammo residue. I fill the barrel with this mixture and let it sit for say 1/2 hour. Then use a brush and flush barrel. After cleaning and then lots of dry patches....I use some good gun oil in the barrel...then in a day or two...dry patches again and check to see there is no rust or white salt stains. I use real black powder (percussion/flintlocks) and this method works for me.

I wonder who ever thought putting Bore butter in a barrel for storage was a good idea ?

I have always use a CLP on ANY barrel I put away for the season, that's what it's for.

Last year I used the 'Long Term Corrosion Inhibitor' from WD40 'Specialist' product line. Worked great no rust and easy clean prior to putting the barrel back into service.

This year I'm testing "Krown's Rust Protection and Lubricant"....see how it does. Just a quick spray down the barrel after they were cleaned. Still have a couple more to do during the holidays.

Have been shooting Black Powder M.L,s for over 40 years, [45 and 54 cal. Hawken type rifles , factory built and kits that I have built ] I have always used the extremely "Hot water and Dish Soap " method followed by a good drying and coating with Rem. Gun Oil, I have not ever found any rust in my barrel using this method to clean.
Simple easy and it works.

I had ez clean foaming bore cleaner recommended by a friend but haven't got to try it as I didn't get out with bp gun. Plug the end, fill barrel with foam and let it soak for an hour. He cleaned it out with a cordless drill on a brush and cleaning rod. A little oil and put it away.

I checked it tonight, again, a bit of frost and a rusty colour, I did some googling and it looks like this has happened to others too. I hit it with a wet patch of CLP.

MikePal, when we shot this gun the first time at your place the cleaner we used was all I used, this residue did not occur in that case. What was that stuff? Do they sell it locally? I think the Hornady stuff will be removed from the BP cleaning kit.

My 25 does not show the same rusty colour, will be watching close.

[QUOTE=MikePal;1075673]I wonder who ever thought putting Bore butter in a barrel for storage was a good idea ?

Hi MikePal-not challenging You,but what is wrong with Bore Butter?
I use it on my TC Omega for 10 years or so for yearly storage....so far ,so good?

Thanx