Ontario Announces New Big Game Management Advisory Committee

Well another kick at the can..let's see if this approach has legs..

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The Ontario government is working for the people by listening to concerns from hunters on how the province manages its moose population to ensure sustainability and hunting opportunities for future generations.

Last fall, the government announced a review of moose management in Ontario. Today John Yakabuski, Minister of Natural Resources and Forestry, announced the Big Game Management Advisory Committee (BGMAC), tasked with advising on improvements to how the province manages moose and other big game including deer, elk and black bear.

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https://news.ontario.ca/mnr/en/2019/...committee.html

I sure hope John Yakabuski, Minister of Natural Resources and Forestry, reads this blog!

How many times have we the hunter, fisherman been hoodwinked in the past with workshops, get togethers, EBR's etc.

In the end it always appears the MNR just does whatever it wanted to do regardless of any and all input.

The only way to get any REAL results is to comprise a panel of equal MNR representatives and an equal number of private advisors. There should be separate panels pertaining to the management of any particular animal. A panel for deer, a panel for moose, a panel for bear, etc.
only a fool knows everything is a phrase we all need to say over and over.

These individual panels can then make submissions pertaining to issues to be addressed. Then in true democracy a vote will carry the direction and changes needed.

The MNR of the past and the current thinks they're the only ones with the expertise because ....well just because.
go back to that line about fools.

So John Yakabuski, Minister of Natural Resources and Forestry, I challenge you to give this a try.
The winners will be the wildlife and the management of the wildlife.
or we can do it the MNR way. How many times does it fail before something positive occurs.

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Originally Posted by SK33T3R

The only way to get any REAL results is to comprise a panel of equal MNR representatives and an equal number of private advisors. There should be separate panels pertaining to the management of any particular animal. A panel for deer, a panel for moose, a panel for bear, etc.

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It sounds like the committee is well rounded....well except the guys with 'previous' experience, they are part of the problem :)

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The committee consists of members with diverse knowledge and experience in moose management and quota review, moose hunting, tourist outfitter operations, and previous experience on wildlife advisory committees.

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Originally Posted by SK33T3R

I sure hope John Yakabuski, Minister of Natural Resources and Forestry, reads this blog!

How many times have we the hunter, fisherman been hoodwinked in the past with workshops, get togethers, EBR's etc.

In the end it always appears the MNR just does whatever it wanted to do regardless of any and all input.

The only way to get any REAL results is to comprise a panel of equal MNR representatives and an equal number of private advisors. There should be separate panels pertaining to the management of any particular animal. A panel for deer, a panel for moose, a panel for bear, etc.
only a fool knows everything is a phrase we all need to say over and over.

These individual panels can then make submissions pertaining to issues to be addressed. Then in true democracy a vote will carry the direction and changes needed.

The MNR of the past and the current thinks they're the only ones with the expertise because ....well just because.
go back to that line about fools.

So John Yakabuski, Minister of Natural Resources and Forestry, I challenge you to give this a try.
The winners will be the wildlife and the management of the wildlife.
or we can do it the MNR way. How many times does it fail before something positive occurs.

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Start a petition on here and send off some numbers to the Minister,I am sure we will support it here in big numbers.

It's simple. NO MOOSE HUNTING FOR FIVE YEARS. Two bear tags attached to each and every Resident deer license for the next six years, and Wolf/Coyote tags come in a pack of ten for $50 for the next ten years. Non-Resident Bear tags are $50 each and a ten pack of Wolf/Coyote goes for $80 to 100. North of Hwy 17 from Saut St Marie East to Quebec a deer tag is Valid for bucks or doe automatically, and make it a limit of three tags per hunter.

I agree to no moose hunting for an extended period of time as long as everyone gets on board.

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Originally Posted by sawbill

I agree to no moose hunting for an extended period of time as long as everyone gets on board.

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At a minimum...NO cow or calf tags....for 5 yrs.

IMO at this point, it doesn’t even matter what the license hunters do, we are now only a very small proportion of the Moose harvest that they can control.
How can you manage a resource when you don’t even know what the unlicensed hunters are doing and can’t control them or even talk about it.
All the MNRF cares about is getting your money up front for a chance in a draw.
We are following the footsteps of Manitoba. History will repeat itself.
It’s a shame. IMO

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Originally Posted by Deer Hunter

IMO at this point, it doesn’t even matter what the license hunters do, we are now only a very small proportion of the Moose harvest that they can control.
How can you manage a resource when you don’t even know what the unlicensed hunters are doing and can’t control them or even talk about it.
All the MNRF cares about is getting your money up front for a chance in a draw.
We are following the footsteps of Manitoba. History will repeat itself.
It’s a shame. IMO

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What did Manitoba do to alleviate the issue?

They concluded that overharvesting was the main cause of the Moose decline. Government closed the license hunter moose hunt. First Nation and Metis agreed to stop their traditional Moose hunt.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...-act-1.3352564
https://mwf.mb.ca/2016/09/02/manitob...aign-document/
Lots of different articles about it. In the end they had to be honest and open about all issues.
This is what is happening in Ontario, nobody wants to talk about it.