I don't hunt with a muzzleloader but I was wondering with the Liberal gun ban and the 20mm clause are muzzleloaders banned or are they not considered firearms? TC
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I don't hunt with a muzzleloader but I was wondering with the Liberal gun ban and the 20mm clause are muzzleloaders banned or are they not considered firearms? TC
No. But could be close on 10,000 joules
There are some models:
https://i.imgur.com/pHZOQdDl.jpg
20mm in almost 79 cal, I know there are some large muzzleloaders, 69 cal, 72 cal, but I do not know of that many 80 cal smoke poles.Quote:
Originally Posted by trky chsr
The old punt guns and BP shotguns would be banned though, nothing states that they have to be breech loading, so front stuffers would be on the ban list for now at least if the bore, not the muzzle, was over 20mm.
Modern smokeless ML can produce well over 10000 joules
I wonder how that would all work though. There has to be some sort of standard that they go with, a 40 cal smokeless muzzle loader can be loaded with a large variation of powder, some safe and some not. Would they be confiscating your muzzle loader and loading it up to the point of failure with a number of different bullet weights to determine the maximum? I highly doubt that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Jack
My expectation is along the same lines as the shotgun SAAMI spec, by looking at factory ammo making 10,000+ joules, since there is no factory ammo I am sure they would default to standards from the industry, which would keep the smokeless muzzle loaders well under 10,000 joules.
I don't think the Laws are designed to address the handful of long distant shooters who push bullets beyond the 10,000 joules out of their smokeless ML's ...
Now those guy with the 2" cannons sitting at the cottage pointed across the Lake...well they HAVE to be Banned ...you know to keep Canadian's safe. HaHa...
Your actually trying to say that a "Modern smokeless ML can produces well over 10,000 joules" which is almost twice what a standard joules of a .338 Win Mag?Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Jack
Got a reference?
I have three in my basement that will drive a .458 350 grain pill at just shy of 3200 FPS..... so yes I have a referenceQuote:
Originally Posted by Woodsman
My avatar shows a load at 6500 FPE and 10 percent under max load of THAT powder.
Welp,I guess you're SOL,too,then. Jeez,what a massive flustercuck this thing turned out to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Jack