Preferably meatless, low-carbon diets

OK, these people are clearly out of control.

“COVID-19 has provided insight into how rapid lifestyle changes can be brought about by governments … The lockdown period in many countries may be long enough to establish new, lasting routines if supported by longer term measures. In planning the recovery from COVID-19, governments have an opportunity to catalyse low-carbon lifestyle changes by disrupting entrenched practices.”

That’s what Trudeau means by “The Great Reset.”

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/goldstein-un-climate-report-reveals-goals-of-trudeaus-great-reset

Lol I posted that in the other thread [emoji1787]

I guess it's ok to save the planet and sacrifice human life to some.. [emoji107]

We could burn up or starve you pick [emoji23]
We are already crumbling and to stick a 30 percent living fee tax in the next 9 year's is a joke . We are going to be in a world of hurt in the coming years and with living cost going up well.

It will do the opposite of saving the people from poverty it will double the size.

We are far from done with this pandemic we will be lucky if we start having a good recovery by the next election. As it is we will be lucky if we are fully open in 2023 these shut downs will be till at least spring unless they just say f it and open up with case's lol. It will be years to fully recovered and to be honest it's might not even be fully recovered in the next 5 or 6 years.

Once interest rates go up it's going to be a whole nother ball game.

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Don't worry about the next election, the plan is that there won't be one. With the divide this government is putting in our country it appears the plan will be to postpone elections based on insurrection.

As far as dietary change, I think I'm doing it wrong. I have eaten more meat and fish since covid started than ever before! I say I'm saving the environment! I mean, when the mallards were around I was eating flying tenderloin 4 days a week, thats a lot of duck farts that won't hit the atmosphere.

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Don't worry about the next election, the plan is that there won't be one. With the divide this government is putting in our country it appears the plan will be to postpone elections based on insurrection.

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I don't think the Conservatives want (or should) to take over the Government. Who the heck want's to try and dig the economy out of this hole. With deficits this big it's going to hurt everyone's pocket book. Wait until the Covid benefits to Businesses, Landlords and the Unemployed dries up. There is going to be an avalanche of Bankruptcies waiting to close down the economy even further.

Look at what happened with the provincial government who had to pick up the pieces after the Liberals destroyed the economy of Ontario. Ford is forced to make cuts and everyone is up in arms after him. Teachers strikes that damaged our education system and he was blamed, not the Liberals who put him into that position.

People like Gilly still blame Harper for having to deal with the economic disaster that Jean Cretien left the country in.

We are better off with this minority Government that has it's wings clipped. No more money in the well. Fix the economy and stop hurting it with this ridiculous Climate Change nonsense.

Like Covid and being afraid of death. I’m ok with measures to forestall the inevitable. But inevitable it is. That is something the green zealots don’t like talking about.

Does it make sense, any at all to punish the dirty masses? Who if people on the left paused to use their brains, would realize helping 60 or 70% of the population reach Nirvanna ( say EVs) does far more than 20%. The latter of whom also likely fly around the world, have fast cars and fast boats.....and who may not even blink at paying an extra .20 per litre?

Vegetarians talk about morals. Funny last time I checked were poisoning Bees, and all kinds other insects that are critical to healthy ecosystems. So they can eat. I suppose to them that’s humane.

Fertilizer lawn or garden.
We’re pooping in our lakes and streams. They wants to save wetlands. Has they stopped using lawn fertilizer and salt in winter? Let’s ask Brook Trout how humane suffocation is. Poop rolls downhill or did they fail grade 1 physics.

Blue Green Algae blooms. Oh my god screams the urban dweller whose dog just died. We have to save the planet. But first I need to fertilize my lawn........then go play golf. Want to talk waste of precious space/water? How many of these have sprung up over the last 20 years. Dozens and dozens.

As I type this I’m staring at Bell Peppers, potatoes, tomatoes,,I need to harvest out of my basement garden. I harvested 20 bell peppers last week. I use bat poop for fertilizer. I use a fair bit of hydro.

Pretty sure, though my poop does stink, my foot print is smaller than most people that live in the city.

Where millions of pounds of refuse is trucked ( fossil) out of every day. Where you can see it from the moon at night. Where, the majority scream about Climate Change try to dictate how others should live ( who usually have smaller footprints). Take a picture of a smog enshrouded city and farmland. Who even today are abandoning high density housing ( Condos)....in favor of?????

More do as we say, not as we do?

Want to slow the pace of CC?
I’m on board. Well then, walk the talk, figure out how to corral major urban centers.
Slow urban sprawl.
Slow consumption
Dim street lights, and if that leads to accidents boo boo. Learn to drive.Ditto doe salt in winter.
And on
And on

Imagine the utter insanity of China and India telling the world to clean up their act. That is exactly what we have here, and what needs to be addressed.

I idiocy of the agenda by the UN to alter the climate change thru social engineering only leaves us dumbfounded by anyone who believes it.

And politicians like Trudeau using the "opportunity ' to push his Climate Change agenda is deplorable. Holding back funding for Health Care and committing money for climate change to meet the unachievable goals (Paris Accord) that he foolishly promised to achieve is irresponsible.

Unless they figure out how to alter the rotation of the Earth or the cyclical activity of the Sun...we will have to adapt to Climate Change, as we have had for the past few Billions of years.

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“COVID-19 has provided insight into how rapid lifestyle changes can be brought about by governments … The lockdown period in many countries may be long enough to establish new, lasting routines if supported by longer term measures. In planning the recovery from COVID-19, governments have an opportunity to catalyse low-carbon lifestyle changes by disrupting entrenched practices.”

Governments can achieve these goals, the UN says, through taxation and other policies affecting fundamental decisions we make about our lives, from what we eat (preferably meatless, low-carbon diets), to how we travel (less by air, more by subsidized electric cars), to how we power our homes (with wind and solar energy, at least for “higher income” earners, given the costs) and much, much more.

That’s what Trudeau means by “The Great Reset.”

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It’s just pure and utter lunacy on many levels.

Even if that is what he and they want to accomplish. This dream of some nice future. And it’s all best intentions.

How the bleep does he, do they plan to pay for it? By gutting the masses? How’s that working in India................

By forcing more and more to Walmart? Which does many things, not the least of which is increase production in India and China?

I swear, forget learning how to get dirty fingernails and grow small food plots/gardens. Too many on the left can’t grow brain cells.

I bet there are as many liberals if not more that have gone back to the basics. Gardening, food plots, using less and recycling etc. I would also bet that most of the volunteers at soup kitchens, street outreach programs, rehab centres, etc would be left wing voters.

This is a hunting forum. It is about meat eaters. Not about granola munching leftist propaganda agents.

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Well how about hunting schrooms or fiddle heads? I hunt for both of those.Lol

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Well how about hunting schrooms or fiddle heads? I hunt for both of those.Lol

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One can only hope......

https://www.canada.ca/en/health-cana...fety-tips.html

https://northernbushcraft.com/guide....region=ontario

Just signed up... https://trulocal.ca/our-suppliers after looking over them and butcher box .... burgers, water buffalo, liver, steaks... I guess I'm into the meat! :moose::moose: :moose:

as for Mushrooms, easy to grow, fresh but time consuming (slow growing, not the work), but not as cheap as the store but you can get some like Lions Mane, some like the morel and wine cap can be grown in your yard too.
https://shop.fungiakuafo.com/collect...awdust-spawn-1
https://growmushroomscanada.ca/produ...res/grow-kits/

Lion's mane are good but slow (also supposed to have health benefits), Oysters (other than Kings) are fast but you have to harvest them early of the spoors are nuts so I don't recommend them unless you can grow them in the garage or outside the living area. Once you try it a couple times then try Oysters... real easy to grow but not in the living area of the house (basement in an area you can close, garage...) . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45b2t7fqhjA

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I bet there are as many liberals if not more that have gone back to the basics. Gardening, food plots, using less and recycling etc. I would also bet that most of the volunteers at soup kitchens, street outreach programs, rehab centres, etc would be left wing voters.

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I highly, highly doubt that.
Where are liberals located? In cities or rural areas.?

Who broadly speaking are against guns?

Do liberal elites not commonly refer to Cons as uneducated rednecks?

think about conservation groups. There are those who do, and those that think giving back means $20/year...

In other words. The laws of averages should tell you most Liberals.........would sooner pay someone than get their fingernails dirty..

https://www.canadiangeographic.ca/ar...s-dirty-secret

what is the gta, if not the epitome of convenience, the fast life, over indulgence, not a clue about nature, how ecosystems work, etc etc.

Mosq. ? How about chaga? Do you imbibe? Gil or I could fix you up with a nice 'chunk'.

We started Chaga back when the fiance was diagnosed.

Over the years I have slowly increased the output of our vegetable garden. Trying to find the right mix of things to do, stuff we like, and also what can be harvested, stored or canned. Slowly getting there. My asparagus patch will be year 3 this June. Cant wait for our first harvest.

In my grow room ;)
About a dozen Bok Choi, that I try to continuously cycle. As a few are ready harvest leaves, start new seedlings. With some in between. Basically a steady flow of Bok Choi.
6 Bell pepper plants. Almost but not quite ensures there's always 3 or 4 ready to harvest. Sometimes as occurred not long ago I had 20+ all ripen at the same time.
Green Onions and Garlic.
1 Tomato. This has been the hardest to figure out in terms one finishing off, with another almost right behind it.
2 potato. As one gets close to harvesting another is starting.

I'm toying with the idea of starting a worm farm

BINGO...

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I don't think the Conservatives want (or should) to take over the Government. Who the heck want's to try and dig the economy out of this hole. With deficits this big it's going to hurt everyone's pocket book. Wait until the Covid benefits to Businesses, Landlords and the Unemployed dries up. There is going to be an avalanche of Bankruptcies waiting to close down the economy even further.

Look at what happened with the provincial government who had to pick up the pieces after the Liberals destroyed the economy of Ontario. Ford is forced to make cuts and everyone is up in arms after him. Teachers strikes that damaged our education system and he was blamed, not the Liberals who put him into that position.

People like Gilly still blame Harper for having to deal with the economic disaster that Jean Cretien left the country in.

We are better off with this minority Government that has it's wings clipped. No more money in the well. Fix the economy and stop hurting it with this ridiculous Climate Change nonsense.

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I could literally pick a 100lbs of King Bolets in my area. Frequently get 10-15lbs of Morals, and 6 -8 pounds of Chanterelles each season. This doesn't include the 30 pds of wild asparagus I pick each year. I have fields of oregano, thyme, mint, parsley, ginger on public lands I hunt. Apple and pear trees (a few), 2 plum trees I visit each year, are abundant on the public lands around Ottawa, I make my pectin, apple vinegar, apple butter, sauce from free apples.

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Just signed up... https://trulocal.ca/our-suppliers after looking over them and butcher box .... burgers, water buffalo, liver, steaks... I guess I'm into the meat! :moose::moose: :moose:

as for Mushrooms, easy to grow, fresh but time consuming (slow growing, not the work), but not as cheap as the store but you can get some like Lions Mane, some like the morel and wine cap can be grown in your yard too.
https://shop.fungiakuafo.com/collect...awdust-spawn-1
https://growmushroomscanada.ca/produ...res/grow-kits/

Lion's mane are good but slow (also supposed to have health benefits), Oysters (other than Kings) are fast but you have to harvest them early of the spoors are nuts so I don't recommend them unless you can grow them in the garage or outside the living area. Once you try it a couple times then try Oysters... real easy to grow but not in the living area of the house (basement in an area you can close, garage...) . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45b2t7fqhjA

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Tons of Chaga which I just learned about benefits in last 12 months - I have yet to harvest some, but lots of it.

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Mosq. ? How about chaga? Do you imbibe? Gil or I could fix you up with a nice 'chunk'.

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You have to be careful of who you tell where you’re chaga is located. It is worth a lot of money and an area can be stripped very quick. Takes many years to grow a softball sized piece. Responsible harvesting is the way to go.

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Mosq. ? How about chaga? Do you imbibe? Gil or I could fix you up with a nice 'chunk'.

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Yes, occasionally with a bit of buckwheat honey (local) or the wildflower honey I got through Levhaolam's store, I just ordered a Turkeytail kit to try it and to make sure I can identify what I am 99.9% are turkeytails on the logs at the cottage.
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition...om#bottom-line

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I could literally pick a 100lbs of King Bolets in my area. Frequently get 10-15lbs of Morals, and 6 -8 pounds of Chanterelles each season. This doesn't include the 30 pds of wild asparagus I pick each year. I have fields of oregano, thyme, mint, parsley, ginger on public lands I hunt. Apple and pear trees (a few), 2 plum trees I visit each year, are abundant on the public lands around Ottawa, I make my pectin, apple vinegar, apple butter, sauce from free apples.

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Sounds real good, I made some morel slurries (lots of recipes how to do it out there) and put down around the cottage so maybe a chance there but the only mushrooms other than what I think are turkeytails that I see around the cottage when I looked up ... all poisonous. I planted a yellow plum and got black stuff growing all over it and the squirrels have found ways onto the trees (including what I would call sky diving from higher trees) and other than the yellow raspberries rabbits, raccoons and even a coyote (one day sitting eating apples under the tree) get fed better than me... and my wife will spend hours on grass and flowers in the garden but hates the small veggie patch... so much so that when I made it a foot bigger on one side she showed up with 2 rolls of sod to "fix" it. I got some Goji berries from Bambooplants and have been quietly adding them and replacing some of the bushes she won't notice. The hardy kiwi and grapes on the fence just did nothing this year... this year just had nothing.

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You have to be careful of who you tell where you’re chaga is located. It is worth a lot of money and an area can be stripped very quick. Takes many years to grow a softball sized piece. Responsible harvesting is the way to go.

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If you have birch trees and lots of time you can try growing it on your own trees but it sounds like alot of effort to get it started and really really slow to grow.

Mosq. I am growing my own. lol. You just cut a notch part way into a birch tree. the tree will produce a chaga bud to seal off the damage. A couple I started about 5 years ago ,are now about the size of a thimble. Not all damaged birch trees will produce chaga. Yes unless you want to harvest 20 years from now, it's not worth the effort.

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Mosq. I am growing my own. lol. You just cut a notch part way into a birch tree. the tree will produce a chaga bud to seal off the damage. A couple I started about 5 years ago ,are now about the size of a thimble. Not all damaged birch trees will produce chaga. Yes unless you want to harvest 20 years from now, it's not worth the effort.

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I have a birch tree at the cottage, there is a Canadian company that sells the cultures and what you need to inoculate trees but I don't remember which one and this came up on the first search. When I glanced at it (probably in spring) they said 3 to 5 years and about 40% success IF I remember correctly.
https://northspore.com/products/chag...2b7b1a75&_ss=r

They said the morels were another "patience" one that could take 2 to 5 years and a low success rate too, but using old ones past eating increased the odds over dried ones but once established seem like they can produce ok every year.

* IF I get bored and go find the Canadian chaga cultures in Canada I will post it here or in a new post on this thread.:moose:

Mosq. I was told by an 'old' chaga hunter, just to rub a harvested chunk on the cut, that you are trying to 'seed'. Just get some into the cut, and nature will take it's course.

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Mosq. I was told by an 'old' chaga hunter, just to rub a harvested chunk on the cut, that you are trying to 'seed'. Just get some into the cut, and nature will take it's course.

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I had a hard time at first locating some after I read about it here on the forum. Now it turn's out I find it all over the place, I have not heard any bad reports about it.

I wonder if there is an optimal area to harvest in where there was a logging operation x number of year ago. They do plenty of damage logging and I would guess these area's might produce pretty good.

All mine are from Yellow birch but I heard that other birch tree's can produce it?

We predominately use Chaga in tea. And yep, had never heard of it before C came into our lives.
The people I know with easy and abundant supply are all in NE Ont and Que.

Morels I wish I could find a source.
Puffballs which are quite nice when cut into slices and fried.
Fiddle heads thankfully plenty of those around.

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We predominately use Chaga in tea. And yep, had never heard of it before C came into our lives.
The people I know with easy and abundant supply are all in NE Ont and Que.

Morels I wish I could find a source.
Puffballs which are quite nice when cut into slices and fried.
Fiddle heads thankfully plenty of those around.

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Take a look here and maybe think of some spots around the garden or ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTFugHA2WaI
https://mygreenerylife.com/how-to-grow-morel-mushrooms/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nprxMr6XfW4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmlmq7CamLY

You can try making the slurry using cultures or if you can get some past ripe etc. ones from someone in the spring or the dried ones are supposed to work.
https://fungisupply.ca/products/fung...iquid_cultures * NOTE CHAGA IS HERE TOO

Some like shiitake and lions mane you can just buy the kit and follow the instructions and get a few flushes, and if you have some fresh cut logs of the right type you can innoculate with wood plugs or liquid , I tried Phoenix Oysters on some pine logs I had and got a few, but I was late in the season and the logs weren't big), might get more next year as logs will produce over a couple years. Not worth the effort this year for sure but hopefully next year there will be more, just drill a hole, stick in the wood plug and cover with some wax, water the logs occasionally. The Turkey tail is good on almost any logs by the sound of it and what I think are Turkeytail are on some pine logs at the cottage and showed up naturally.
https://fungisupply.ca/products/fung...ins/plug_spawn

Which Species of Log is Best?
https://northspore.com/blogs/the-black-trumpet/tree

I have lots of mature birch on our property. But the foraging I do is located in the old growths on public lands.

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Yes, occasionally with a bit of buckwheat honey (local) or the wildflower honey I got through Levhaolam's store, I just ordered a Turkeytail kit to try it and to make sure I can identify what I am 99.9% are turkeytails on the logs at the cottage.
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition...om#bottom-line




Sounds real good, I made some morel slurries (lots of recipes how to do it out there) and put down around the cottage so maybe a chance there but the only mushrooms other than what I think are turkeytails that I see around the cottage when I looked up ... all poisonous. I planted a yellow plum and got black stuff growing all over it and the squirrels have found ways onto the trees (including what I would call sky diving from higher trees) and other than the yellow raspberries rabbits, raccoons and even a coyote (one day sitting eating apples under the tree) get fed better than me... and my wife will spend hours on grass and flowers in the garden but hates the small veggie patch... so much so that when I made it a foot bigger on one side she showed up with 2 rolls of sod to "fix" it. I got some Goji berries from Bambooplants and have been quietly adding them and replacing some of the bushes she won't notice. The hardy kiwi and grapes on the fence just did nothing this year... this year just had nothing.





If you have birch trees and lots of time you can try growing it on your own trees but it sounds like alot of effort to get it started and really really slow to grow.

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Wow, Morels I have found in every corner of the province. Elms and pines was my lesson learning and spend many days wandering the woods looking for Elms with a very low success rate. Eventually I learned to look at soil conditions to eliminate certain areas (or when hunting in new areas). Pine stands (not cedar), was an accidental discovery of hunting in fall on frozen grounds with no snow and found black chanterelles frozen fully grown that deer (skunks or other critters) had been eating. I went back the next season to check at start of Chanterelles and found older Morels, I went back earlier the following season during morel season and found a motherload of Morels. So I added that possible sites to look for (growing conditions), pine morels tend to be either dark brown of black. Last May I went out with a buddy of mine to teach him and discovered another motherload on a public road (crownland, very little activity) along the cedar and alder bush line beside road. We picked over 9lbs (that is lot of morels to make 9lbs - and still left over 50% in place. All the books state starting areas, for eastern Ontario the difference between, Ottawa, Kemptville and Brockville emergence times is about 7-10 days apart and is really dependant on the spring thaws. During these early morel hunts I am also always on the lookout for aspagus and fiddle heads, as emergence is all roughly the same time.

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We predominately use Chaga in tea. And yep, had never heard of it before C came into our lives.
The people I know with easy and abundant supply are all in NE Ont and Que.

Morels I wish I could find a source.
Puffballs which are quite nice when cut into slices and fried.
Fiddle heads thankfully plenty of those around.

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Thanks Mosq.
maybe it's time for some more experimenting. Would be great to start my own.

Hey Line0. Long time, hope all is well.
I've looked and looked and looked when foraging for fiddle heads. Have yet to find a single one. Had hopes for the farm I have access to for hunting, but nada. It is a great source for puffballs though.

Friend of mine dove off the deep end a few years ago. Full bore self sufficient off grid living. He's inspiring and a wee bit crazy. :)
In part, my inspiration to start a decent vegetable garden in the basement.

He's up around Thunder Bay now.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC89...a9IHGy7Mf68mCQ