A re-cap, in case you wondering how we got so far in Debt

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January 10th, 2021, 11:56 AM
MikePal

A re-cap, in case you wondering how we got so far in Debt

Spending shenanigans from the PMO. Since they won't release their spending, here a snippet.

$84 million to Telford's husbands company
$382 million to a Montreal company to produce masks when they don't even have a plant in Canada.
$149 million for test kits that are 47% false positives.
$6.8 million to a Chinese security company over a $5.4 bid from a Calgary company. This Chinese company was charged with security breaches in Taiwan and Japan, an employee jailed and boycotted as untrustworthy by a number of countries around the world.

Wonder why the US considers us a security threat.
Total of $621.8 million just in one week.

Plus 2 new one, $20 million to Cycle capital Mgmt who Guilbeault worked for and $237 million to former Liberal MP Baylis for unapproved and undelivered respirators.
Total $878.8 million.
Almost a billion of OUR tax dollars wasted.
Then there's $30 million WE has not returned yet .
$200 million on a defunct casino.

Environment Minister McKenna, instead of putting a contract up for bid as required, gave a $176.6 million job to a contractor before putting it out for public bid. Then awarded 8, $24,558 contracts to the same company. There is a $25,000 limit to jobs before they have to go out to public tender. McNaughton is in trouble for lobbying MP's to hire, Palatin, who he works for, to collect data on Canadians re Covid.

We won't even mention the $114 million invested in Chinese COAL powered power plants while forcing the elimination of coal in Canada.

$400 million for foreign Covid aid after already giving the WHO $800 million.

Another $10 BILLION to infrastructure after admitting they have no idea where HALF OF THE $187 BILLION INFRASTRUCTURE BUDGET went.
That's 93 5 BILLION DOLLARS. How do you lose $93.5 billion dollars of OUR money?

They can get all this taken care of but no time for anything that will help pay down the $1.45 TRILLION debt?

And let's not forget the $755.8 million paid to the news media to support the Liberal misinformation and omissions. And that does not include CBC's $1.5 billion yearly stipend which the Liberals promised to increase by $150 million.

$35 billion to the Infrastructure Bank which has done nothing but pay a lot of big salaries for doing nothing.
Now $400 BORROWED billion to recover.. the spending, lockdowns, tyranny. Then the allegations what's it going to take.

This is responsible behavior? Responsibility lays at the feet of the Village Idiot !!
January 10th, 2021, 12:09 PM
impact

If the above does not get your blood boiling then nothing will.
January 10th, 2021, 12:17 PM
fishfood

They don't care about our money they will just increase everything to coup it back.

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January 10th, 2021, 12:42 PM
fratri

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikePal

Spending shenanigans from the PMO. Since they won't release their spending, here a snippet.

$84 million to Telford's husbands company
$382 million to a Montreal company to produce masks when they don't even have a plant in Canada.
$149 million for test kits that are 47% false positives.
$6.8 million to a Chinese security company over a $5.4 bid from a Calgary company. This Chinese company was charged with security breaches in Taiwan and Japan, an employee jailed and boycotted as untrustworthy by a number of countries around the world.

Wonder why the US considers us a security threat.
Total of $621.8 million just in one week.

Plus 2 new one, $20 million to Cycle capital Mgmt who Guilbeault worked for and $237 million to former Liberal MP Baylis for unapproved and undelivered respirators.
Total $878.8 million.
Almost a billion of OUR tax dollars wasted.
Then there's $30 million WE has not returned yet .
$200 million on a defunct casino.

Environment Minister McKenna, instead of putting a contract up for bid as required, gave a $176.6 million job to a contractor before putting it out for public bid. Then awarded 8, $24,558 contracts to the same company. There is a $25,000 limit to jobs before they have to go out to public tender. McNaughton is in trouble for lobbying MP's to hire, Palatin, who he works for, to collect data on Canadians re Covid.

We won't even mention the $114 million invested in Chinese COAL powered power plants while forcing the elimination of coal in Canada.

$400 million for foreign Covid aid after already giving the WHO $800 million.

Another $10 BILLION to infrastructure after admitting they have no idea where HALF OF THE $187 BILLION INFRASTRUCTURE BUDGET went.
That's 93 5 BILLION DOLLARS. How do you lose $93.5 billion dollars of OUR money?

They can get all this taken care of but no time for anything that will help pay down the $1.45 TRILLION debt?

And let's not forget the $755.8 million paid to the news media to support the Liberal misinformation and omissions. And that does not include CBC's $1.5 billion yearly stipend which the Liberals promised to increase by $150 million.

$35 billion to the Infrastructure Bank which has done nothing but pay a lot of big salaries for doing nothing.
Now $400 BORROWED billion to recover.. the spending, lockdowns, tyranny. Then the allegations what's it going to take.

This is responsible behavior? Responsibility lays at the feet of the Village Idiot !!

The problem IMO, is this thing happens so often, all I hear is ..........blah, blah, blah......... most of the general public probably hears the same. :(
January 10th, 2021, 01:09 PM
MikePal

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Originally Posted by fratri

The problem IMO, is this thing happens so often, all I hear is ..........blah, blah, blah......... most of the general public probably hears the same. :(

Not the general public...people who didn't vote for them sure take note. This Government has learned they can get away with this kind of misuse of public funds because of voter apathy.

I was thinking this could have made a great resignation letter..

Dear Village Idiot,

I quit because.....
......
Signed
Bill Moreau
January 10th, 2021, 01:20 PM
Birdbuff

Not enough people protesting about accountability. It’s often spoken about during elections. Everyone pitches the idea and uses it for slogans, but the problem is making it reality. If accountability makes its way into a platform promise, then the hard work starts. Politicians aren’t really interested in hard work, not when just showing up earns your pay cheque.
January 10th, 2021, 02:08 PM
fishermccann

Usually when someone posts stats and information like what was quoted, they have attachments that ‘prove ‘ what they are asserting. Even then they could be debated depending on who produced the figures.
January 10th, 2021, 03:22 PM
Gilroy

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

Usually when someone posts stats and information like what was quoted, they have attachments that ‘prove ‘ what they are asserting. Even then they could be debated depending on who produced the figures.

He probably forgot to put in The Buffalo Chronicle. LOL
January 10th, 2021, 03:29 PM
greatwhite

Not hard to look at the information.

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Originally Posted by fishermccann

Usually when someone posts stats and information like what was quoted, they have attachments that ‘prove ‘ what they are asserting. Even then they could be debated depending on who produced the figures.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilroy

He probably forgot to put in The Buffalo Chronicle. LOL
January 10th, 2021, 03:34 PM
Gilroy

Quote:

Originally Posted by greatwhite

Not hard to look at the information.

No its not hard to look at the posted information but I want the source of the information. Now even if its all true the opposition in Parliament's job is to hold the government accountable for what spending it does. So Erin or Jagmeet need
to get the answers during question period, correct?
January 10th, 2021, 03:35 PM
MikePal

Quote:

Originally Posted by greatwhite

Not hard to look at the information.

No kidding, want to dispute the numbers look them up yourself, more deflecting GW, they're good at it.
January 10th, 2021, 03:41 PM
canadaman30

Trudeau told the country, "the budget will balance itself", so he's just keeping his word to his voters...��
January 10th, 2021, 03:44 PM
MikePal

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Trudeau told the country, "the budget will balance itself", so he's just keeping his word to his voters...��

I don't think I want ant to know what the next budget is going to look like. I had one like that after we bought our first house, lots of peanut butter sandwiches in a paper bag for lunch HaHa..
January 10th, 2021, 03:50 PM
Gilroy

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikePal

No kidding, want to dispute the numbers look them up yourself, more deflecting GW, they're good at it.

Should be easy for you to simply provide the link, I assume the information came of the one script, I hope your not deflecting?
January 10th, 2021, 03:50 PM
greatwhite

Sorry my mistake and I guess you didn't understand. I will assume you have access to a computer, have you ever heard of the tool, also know as a search engine called Google? You can use Googleto look up information, honest it's not difficult. My kid's have been using it since they were 4 years old.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilroy

No its not hard to look at the posted information but I want the source of the information. Now even if its all true the opposition in Parliament's job is to hold the government accountable for what spending it does. So Erin or Jagmeet need
to get the answers during question period, correct?
January 10th, 2021, 03:55 PM
canadaman30

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikePal

I don't think I want ant to know what the next budget is going to look like. I had one like that after we bought our first house, lots of peanut butter sandwiches in a paper bag for lunch HaHa..

If your able to convince your voters, budgets balance themselves, it really won't matter how much you spend....lmao
January 10th, 2021, 04:00 PM
Gilroy

Quote:

Originally Posted by greatwhite

Sorry my mistake and I guess you didn't understand. I will assume you have access to a computer, have you ever heard of the tool, also know as a search engine called Google? You can use Googleto look up information, honest it's not difficult. My kid's have been using it since they were 4 years old.

Most folks simply cite their source unless they are trying to cover that source up for what ever reason.

So most all these claims seem to emanate from the right wing rag the National Post started by the ex convict Conrad Black.

P.S. I am so happy you worked out that I had access to a computer. LOL
January 10th, 2021, 04:37 PM
JBen

It’s the oppositions job to make noise. It’s the electorates job to hold them accountable.

Sadly, when it comes to spending, and scandals, financial or other. The electorate rarely does. Especially the Left.

But a handful of tone deaf politicians that fly south. The whole freaking country loses their Shyte....

Those be facts.
January 10th, 2021, 04:53 PM
greatwhite

Regular news not difficult to look up. Think it was in CBC as well.

https://nationalpost.com/news/politi...ce-aid-program

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gilroy

Most folks simply cite their source unless they are trying to cover that source up for what ever reason.

So most all these claims seem to emanate from the right wing rag the National Post started by the ex convict Conrad Black.

P.S. I am so happy you worked out that I had access to a computer. LOL
January 10th, 2021, 06:34 PM
73hunter

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBen

It’s the oppositions job to make noise. It’s the electorates job to hold them accountable.

Sadly, when it comes to spending, and scandals, financial or other. The electorate rarely does. Especially the Left.

But a handful of tone deaf politicians that fly south. The whole freaking country loses their Shyte....

Those be facts.

So true....
January 10th, 2021, 06:56 PM
Birdbuff

Maybe the schools aren’t teaching enough political literacy.
January 10th, 2021, 08:15 PM
mosquito

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Originally Posted by Birdbuff

Maybe the schools aren’t teaching enough political literacy.

Very little and very slanted based on what I have seen... it is interesting in Russia (even with Putin in power) the Gulag Archipelago is still required reading... be nice if that was here too as well as Tombstone about the Chinese famine and I would add Ordinary Men. I haven't read it yet and it sounds in the same "what man is capable of" category, the unicorns and rainbows utopia worlders need to realize there is such a thing as reality, then we can start to make progress. To paraphrase Jordan Peterson if a man doesn't realize there is evil and what men (inclusive) are capable of then they can't understand what is needed to live as a civilization.
https://bookfrom.net/christopher-r-b...inary_men.html
January 10th, 2021, 11:40 PM
sawbill

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Originally Posted by Birdbuff

Maybe the schools aren’t teaching enough political literacy.

I'd settle for just literacy.