Foul mouth

I am wondering how long will it take for ODD to actually step in and deal with rampant foul mouthing on some,especially Off Topic-Political forum.
I have no problem seeing it for myself-but what about the integrity of the Forum?

I respect everyone's right for their opinion ,and this complaint is not about that.

While many of the members resorat "bit"here and there to "get out of a line".

Yet,there are few members here making art and habit from it.


I do not know how officially report a case-tried...but gave up.
So please take this as reporting.

Not that hard to see who-when and what.
Wondering if talks full of foul mouthing go along with the "values"of this Forum.
Have a nice day

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Originally Posted by gbk

I am wondering how long will it take for ODD to actually step in and deal with rampant foul mouthing on some,especially Off Topic-Political forum.
I have no problem seeing it for myself-but what about the integrity of the Forum?

I respect everyone's right for their opinion ,and this complaint is not about that.

While many of the members resorat "bit"here and there to "get out of a line".

Yet,there are few members here making art and habit from it.


I do not know how officially report a case-tried...but gave up.
So please take this as reporting.

Not that hard to see who-when and what.
Wondering if talks full of foul mouthing go along with the "values"of this Forum.
Have a nice day

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Defining "foul mouthing" may help determine what you mean or are you referring to simple "trash talking"?

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Originally Posted by gbk

I am wondering how long will it take for ODD to actually step in and deal with rampant foul mouthing on some,especially Off Topic-Political forum.
I have no problem seeing it for myself-but what about the integrity of the Forum?

I respect everyone's right for their opinion ,and this complaint is not about that.

While many of the members resorat "bit"here and there to "get out of a line".

Yet,there are few members here making art and habit from it.


I do not know how officially report a case-tried...but gave up.
So please take this as reporting.

Not that hard to see who-when and what.
Wondering if talks full of foul mouthing go along with the "values"of this Forum.
Have a nice day

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There is a small "flag" on the bottom of the page under everybody's poster name, you click on it and can type in your complaint.

The fact that some posters resort almost always to foul language tells you more about their intelligence level and the fact that they cannot articulate their point another more meaningful way. I have no idea why the moderators simply do not just delete their posts.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

Defining "foul mouthing" may help determine what you mean or are you referring to simple "trash talking"?

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How about the term "douche bags" followed by a political party name, which was recently posted?

I can't believe so called 'men' in their 60's complaining about 'foul mouth' and 'name calling' on a Outsdoorsman/Sports Forum. Can't imagine what camp life is like were you guys are from HaHa..

I'm guessing some of the adults on here cannot handle a few names?
Wow

Precisely why the off topic section isn't available to view without an account.

I haven't seen anything on here lately that isn't in a PG cartoon.

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Discussions would go a lot better if people were respectful. Sadly, this generally seems to be lacking on the forum.

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Originally Posted by gbk

Wondering if talks full of foul mouthing go along with the "values"of this Forum.

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brings up a good administration point:

The rule is: :

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7. Swearing is prohibited.

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Thankfully the s/w pick up most words like '*hit' and delete them. Which by the way begs the question...how old is that program. If they say ;*hit' on TV during Prime Time TV...shouldn't it be OK to use it here ?? List needs to be revamped.

Anyway I digress....the rule should be corrected to read: No foul language: as it incorporates both Swearing and Rude language...covers both sins.

What often is written on the form is 'Rude' (disrespectful) and gbk is correct a few guys have been doing it far to often.

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"Foul language is offensive and contains swear words or rude words."
from: https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us.../foul-language

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Can we start with the words "citiots" and "snowflakes". :)

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

How about the term "douche bags" followed by a political party name, which was recently posted?

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N-a-a-h-h,that's just trash talk. LOL

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Originally Posted by gbk

I am wondering how long will it take for ODD to actually step in and deal with rampant foul mouthing on some,especially Off Topic-Political forum.
I have no problem seeing it for myself-but what about the integrity of the Forum?

I respect everyone's right for their opinion ,and this complaint is not about that.

While many of the members resorat "bit"here and there to "get out of a line".

Yet,there are few members here making art and habit from it.


I do not know how officially report a case-tried...but gave up.
So please take this as reporting.

Not that hard to see who-when and what.
Wondering if talks full of foul mouthing go along with the "values"of this Forum.
Have a nice day

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gbk,

The Forum is your online community. If you see a post that directly violates the Forum's guidelines and if you don't report it, you're only doing yourself and the community a disservice.

Here are the Forum's guidelines: https://www.oodmag.com/community/sho...-Rules-Conduct

Many hands make light work, after all. We can't resolve it if we don't see it. In future, you can report a post by clicking on the wee flag on the bottom left of a post box, underneath the poster's name. Thank you.

MeghanOOD.

Thank You to all for the feedback:

Here is the deal-i am old enough and went thru enough in my life that i do not get personally offended by swearing.
While being rude is a norm for a few here, and it is quite "distasteful" if You are asking me(for a lack of better words)i am perfectly fine with that too.
Trash talk (if i understand the term correctly) can be borderline entertainment ,as far i am concerned.

Hovewer, for a life of me i can not understand why swearing is allowed and tolerated.

I also do not understand -sorry Meghan, why a member has to report swearing? Especially if it is rampant.
I have no idea what a moderator's job is ,and i am not challenging anyone-but somehow i always thought, moderators are the keepers of the rules.
Fairly-unbiased and without taking sides. Perhaps without being prompted .Swear words do not belong to the Forum ,and should be easy to pick.But i could be wrong.
Appreciate pointing out how to report though.

I still believe-as someone mentioned above-these kind of posts should be deleted automatically.

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

I'm guessing some of the adults on here cannot handle a few names?
Wow

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GW I have known you for a lot of years now and have to ask you ,would you approve of some of the language used on here and would you let your own children either use it or be exposed to it.

Being in the privacy of a hunt camp is a whole lot different from being on a public forum where thousands of people can read these posts.

Even in the off topic section what we say is a representation of hunters and fisher folks in Ontario.

How do you want us to be viewed from the outside.

Put the "Positive Spin" new Sheriff on it. He'll clean up this town...��

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Originally Posted by gbk

Trash talk (if i understand the term correctly) can be borderline entertainment ,as far i am concerned.....

Hovewer, for a life of me i can not understand why swearing is allowed and tolerated.

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I think you've hit the nail on the head...a lot of what is considered as Trash talk (Cidoit, Snowflakes. Trolls ) are perfectly fine (NOT swearing) for most people, only objected to by those that fit the bill by definition . There not offensive and accepted common lexicon on Social Media.

And there are NOT name calling....if you are what it defines, it is what you are. ie ..you protect the public you're a Cop, you heal the sick you'r a Dr. you troll the forum you're a Troll....

As far as swearing... I don't see much on the Forum, George gave us the list many years ago and in fact the forum s/w has them automatically blocked...it's all about the context HaHa.

Warning 18+ rating for Swearing: wondering what the 7 swears words are, George lays them out for you.

If your interested go to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMyDvqnwIm4

Have to Disagree. These are not swear words.

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Originally Posted by Sharon

Can we start with the words "citiots" and "snowflakes". :)

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You say that while my son is looking over my shoulder and laughing. Yes I would. My kid's have all been at camps I don't hide anything from my kid's. They have heard all the language and each know how to handle themselves.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

GW I have known you for a lot of years now and have to ask you ,would you approve of some of the language used on here and would you let your own children either use it or be exposed to it.

Being in the privacy of a hunt camp is a whole lot different from being on a public forum where thousands of people can read these posts.

Even in the off topic section what we say is a representation of hunters and fisher folks in Ontario.

How do you want us to be viewed from the outside.

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In the end, ya gotta find a happy medium between a Brownies campfire sing-a-long and the midnight hunt camp fire sing-a-long. It's the difference between hot chocolate with marshmallows and cheap whisky with a bitta coke in it for color. No 1 likes both of them together as far as I know and are gonna have some strong opinions on which one they want in their mitt, but they can still sit around the fire with their bevvy of choice and shoot the breeze.
John

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

You say that while my son is looking over my shoulder and laughing. Yes I would. My kid's have all been at camps I don't hide anything from my kid's. They have heard all the language and each know how to handle themselves.

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We are the same . Our music has bad words streamed not the radio that sensors it out. What is a bad word ? Why is it a bad word ? It is because it is offensive surely a word can't offend anyone can it lol.

A bad word is only offensive when used towards a person that word can be anything not something that we decided is a bad word . Why is it bad they all have a meaning behind it and should not be taken offensive unless the term in used towards others.

They are just words

Just look at ford yesterday for saying Ying yang. He would stick a firecracker so far up his Ying yang he wouldn't know what hit em.

Now another political leader tweeted that ford wants to sexually assault the owner of phyzer lol.

Going to be some explaining to do today lol.

Like honestly its a only a word.

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Oh yeah I forgot words hurt now a days .

Silly .

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What do you consider to be swearing? I have never seen anything which I would term swearing on here.

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Originally Posted by gbk

Thank You to all for the feedback:

Here is the deal-i am old enough and went thru enough in my life that i do not get personally offended by swearing.
While being rude is a norm for a few here, and it is quite "distasteful" if You are asking me(for a lack of better words)i am perfectly fine with that too.
Trash talk (if i understand the term correctly) can be borderline entertainment ,as far i am concerned.

Hovewer, for a life of me i can not understand why swearing is allowed and tolerated.

I also do not understand -sorry Meghan, why a member has to report swearing? Especially if it is rampant.
I have no idea what a moderator's job is ,and i am not challenging anyone-but somehow i always thought, moderators are the keepers of the rules.
Fairly-unbiased and without taking sides. Perhaps without being prompted .Swear words do not belong to the Forum ,and should be easy to pick.But i could be wrong.
Appreciate pointing out how to report though.

I still believe-as someone mentioned above-these kind of posts should be deleted automatically.

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

What do you consider to be swearing? I have never seen anything which I would term swearing on here.

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It could be to what Sharon has said snowflake and citiots

Like

Pig
Cow
And sheep are all offensive when used incorrectly lol.
Or
cuckoo clock
gun
crackers
All offensive word's



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Originally Posted by fishfood

Oh yeah I forgot words hurt now a days .

Silly .

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They always hurt. Now you are held accountable when they do.

Oh I know what it was
Someone said the _oof word very offensive to many

Like God bless America very offensive lol.



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Originally Posted by fishermccann

They always hurt. Now you are held accountable when they do.

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But it's not the word that hurts .

It is the sentence that the word is used in that hurts. So sentences should hurt not words lol. The sentence will determine how the word is used or evaluated.

Some words hurt some ,but in the end it comes with more than just a word to make it hurt.



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Originally Posted by fishfood

But it's not the word that hurts .

It is the sentence that the word is used in that hurts. So sentences should hurt not words lol. The sentence will determine how the word is used or evaluated.

Some words hurt some ,but in the end it comes with more than just a word to make it hurt.



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Here's a word: Semantics.

If someone told you to eff-off, I think you wouldn't say, "it's just a word". At a minimum, you would likely wonder why that person said that to you. Most people would also be offended by that and get angry. On a forum, that often leads to a snowball effect of increasingly disrespectful exchanges.

These increasingly disrespectful exchanges have been occurring more and more often here, and usually it is not even caused by "swear words", although I have noticed a few instances where people have been jumbling the letters of swear words to get them past the filters, similar to what I did above. Usually it is caused by childish name calling, or just disrespectful responses. It's unnecessary and really takes away from the discussion. Personally, I think the underlying issue is that lately, the majority of threads are not even about outdoor topics, but rather about COVID/lockdown/politics/erosion of rights. Even threads that start off as an outdoor topic are being derailed so that then end up to be about those other topics. It's very tiresome. Maybe the stress of the current situation is starting to get to people, but the state of the forum is the worst I have seen it since I joined. We wouldn't need moderators to straighten things out if people were just respectful in the first place.

I overheard some kind of a rap or hip hop song my eleven year daughter was listening to last week and I just about fell over. The cursing and swearing was non stop. She said it's what all her friends are all listening to. Talk about desensitizing kids with this vile garbage. I guess I shouldn't be shocked it's out there but disappointed it would appeal to her. Geez I may have to introduce her to something softer like Metallica!

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Originally Posted by warpipe

I overheard some kind of a rap or hip hop song my eleven year daughter was listening to last week and I just about fell over. The cursing and swearing was non stop. She said it's what all her friends are all listening to. Talk about desensitizing kids with this vile garbage. I guess I shouldn't be shocked it's out there but disappointed it would appeal to her. Geez I may have to introduce her to something softer like Metallica!

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Lets hope the 'Sea Shanty' craze catches on, the young crowd seems to like it so far HaHa.

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Originally Posted by rf2

Here's a word: Semantics.

If someone told you to eff-off, I think you wouldn't say, "it's just a word". At a minimum, you would likely wonder why that person said that to you. Most people would also be offended by that and get angry. On a forum, that often leads to a snowball effect of increasingly disrespectful exchanges.

These increasingly disrespectful exchanges have been occurring more and more often here, and usually it is not even caused by "swear words", although I have noticed a few instances where people have been jumbling the letters of swear words to get them past the filters, similar to what I did above. Usually it is caused by childish name calling, or just disrespectful responses. It's unnecessary and really takes away from the discussion. Personally, I think the underlying issue is that lately, the majority of threads are not even about outdoor topics, but rather about COVID/lockdown/politics/erosion of rights. Even threads that start off as an outdoor topic are being derailed so that then end up to be about those other topics. It's very tiresome. Maybe the stress of the current situation is starting to get to people, but the state of the forum is the worst I have seen it since I joined. We wouldn't need moderators to straighten things out if people were just respectful in the first place.

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Exactly. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by rf2

Here's a word: Semantics.

If someone told you to eff-off, I think you wouldn't say, "it's just a word". At a minimum, you would likely wonder why that person said that to you. Most people would also be offended by that and get angry. On a forum, that often leads to a snowball effect of increasingly disrespectful exchanges.

These increasingly disrespectful exchanges have been occurring more and more often here, and usually it is not even caused by "swear words", although I have noticed a few instances where people have been jumbling the letters of swear words to get them past the filters, similar to what I did above. Usually it is caused by childish name calling, or just disrespectful responses. It's unnecessary and really takes away from the discussion. Personally, I think the underlying issue is that lately, the majority of threads are not even about outdoor topics, but rather about COVID/lockdown/politics/erosion of rights. Even threads that start off as an outdoor topic are being derailed so that then end up to be about those other topics. It's very tiresome. Maybe the stress of the current situation is starting to get to people, but the state of the forum is the worst I have seen it since I joined. We wouldn't need moderators to straighten things out if people were just respectful in the first place.

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You nailed it on all accounts, great post!

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Originally Posted by rf2

Here's a word: Semantics.

If someone told you to eff-off, I think you wouldn't say, "it's just a word". At a minimum, you would likely wonder why that person said that to you. Most people would also be offended by that and get angry. On a forum, that often leads to a snowball effect of increasingly disrespectful exchanges.

These increasingly disrespectful exchanges have been occurring more and more often here, and usually it is not even caused by "swear words", although I have noticed a few instances where people have been jumbling the letters of swear words to get them past the filters, similar to what I did above. Usually it is caused by childish name calling, or just disrespectful responses. It's unnecessary and really takes away from the discussion. Personally, I think the underlying issue is that lately, the majority of threads are not even about outdoor topics, but rather about COVID/lockdown/politics/erosion of rights. Even threads that start off as an outdoor topic are being derailed so that then end up to be about those other topics. It's very tiresome. Maybe the stress of the current situation is starting to get to people, but the state of the forum is the worst I have seen it since I joined. We wouldn't need moderators to straighten things out if people were just respectful in the first place.

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Great post! We do need active moderators here. ASAP!

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Originally Posted by TroutSlayer

Great post! We do need active moderators here. ASAP!

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Oh I already put in for the job to kinda balance the political atmosphere, I hope I can rely on your support?

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Oh I already put in for the job to kinda balance the political atmosphere, I hope I can rely on your support?

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I'm there for ya pal!

What did mom always say...... "If you can't say something nice, Don't say anything at all"

Those that say "they are just words" are just thinking about themselves.

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Originally Posted by Gilroy

Oh I already put in for the job to kinda balance the political atmosphere, I hope I can rely on your support?

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Me too lol.

Just no one sided stuff.

Keep it clean how do I vote lol.






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The job of a moderator is simply to enforce the rules in an unbiased way. You won't get to "balance the political atmosphere".

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Originally Posted by Sharon

The job of a moderator is simply to enforce the rules in an unbiased way. You won't get to "balance the political atmosphere".

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Oh well that rules me out ,now I just feel like the Donald. LOL

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Originally Posted by fratri

What did mom always say...... "If you can't say something nice, Don't say anything at all".

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No, that's not what she said. She said not to leave the house with dirty underwear in case you get in an accident.

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Originally Posted by Sharon

Can we start with the words "citiots" and "snowflakes". :)

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......but the labels are so fitting sometimes. My grandfather once said to me, "want to stop being called a snowflake........well stop acting like a snowflake"

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Originally Posted by 410001661

......but the labels are so fitting sometimes. My grandfather once said to me, "want to stop being called a snowflake........well stop acting like a snowflake"

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I heard the earlier version: if you don't want to called an idiot..don't be an idiot...:)

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Originally Posted by sawbill

No, that's not what she said. She said not to leave the house with dirty underwear in case you get in an accident.

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Yes she did! ROFLMBO

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Originally Posted by Sharon

Yes she did! ROFLMBO

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Yep I got that one as well when I was a kid........never did understand that one.

I’m not easily offended by ‘cussing in person but am ‘put off’ by it more in online forums, social media, or gaming where there are many readers old/young. When debating a person it is easy for a swear word to pop up but when writing you have taken the time to put words on a page where you can see them and even reread them before posting. It seems a little more rude, inconsiderate, & unprofessional.
Oddly I see much more cursing via FB with the perpetrators being ‘soccer moms’ (hope that doesn’t offend).
Actually read several articles on the positives of cursing - again I’d temper that with there being a difference between verbal vs written.
And timely enough here’s a CNN report. Apologies to anyone considering CNN a swear word.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/26/healt...ess/index.html

what kinda bothers me is almost every post or comment on off topic and other topic threads is

"left this"
"right this"
agenda this
agenda that

instead of crapping on what someone thinks and assuming their left or right or up or down, how about talking without the left or right B.s

why do you have to be right or left? why cant you just decide whats right or wrong or your personal opinion's without bringing up the left or the right. thats what i dont get.

This forum has become an off topic/political site. Almost all of the posts that garner the most views/replies, have nothing to do with the outdoors/hunting/fishing/firearms. You can say it is because of Covid or cabin fever, or whatever you like. Bottom line, if you want to talk hunting or fishing, this isn't the place where you will get the most input.

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Originally Posted by delmer

This forum has become an off topic/political site. Almost all of the posts that garner the most views/replies, have nothing to do with the outdoors/hunting/fishing/firearms. You can say it is because of Covid or cabin fever, or whatever you like. Bottom line, if you want to talk hunting or fishing, this isn't the place where you will get the most input.

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Have to agree, seems like the mods just sit back and let it go on and on. Unfortunate. I mod on another board and this type of granola is wiped out with haste.

There are two main members on here who generally and deliberately (by their own admission) try to incite. When those two are not here most can have a reasonable conservation.

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Originally Posted by Fisherman

Have to agree, seems like the mods just sit back and let it go on and on. Unfortunate. I mod on another board and this type of granola is wiped out with haste.

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I might add one of those twon almost never contributes to the hunting or fishing area. You can easily check his profile.

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Originally Posted by greatwhite

There are two main members on here who generally and deliberately (by their own admission) try to incite. When those two are not here most can have a reasonable conservation.

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Those two literally wouldn't last a day on OFC before getting the boot. They have a good non outdoors forum as well but learned over the years what happens so anything political is strictly verboten. Even a long standing hockey thread got locked down when friendly banter went too far and a leafs fans actually started threatening to beat up on some folks.

The "Off Topics" and "F&P Politics" threads were designed,specifically,to take the banter off the outdoor hunting,fishing,camping threads. No one's arms are being twisted to enter the forums. There's a flag at the bottom to report offenders. Besides,when the s**t disturbers are busy there,they aren't wrecking other threads. It keeps them kind of corralled.

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Originally Posted by trimmer21

The "Off Topics" and "F&P Politics" threads were designed,specifically,to take the banter off the outdoor hunting,fishing,camping threads. No one's arms are being twisted to enter the forums. There's a flag at the bottom to report offenders. Besides,when the s**t disturbers are busy there,they aren't wrecking other threads. It keeps them kind of corralled.

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This is it in a nutshell. You want to whine about others instead of talking hunting and fishing, then Off Topic is in your wheel house.
DO NOT READ OFF TOPIC if you do not want to debate various topics that might irritate you or you find controversial, instead go tear down some statues of dead people that offend you or your great great grandparents were done wrong by.
Later we can watch history repeat itself and the cycle can start all over again.
Big boy and girl pants should be mandatory for the OT as a part of entry, or just do not go there and then say a few others are not allowed to play with your ball because they hit it to hard or far.
John