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Same could be said of Ontario the past 20-25 years.
We’re good at fluff, and saying all the right things ( virtue signalling) mediocre on some things. But the things that matter, and getting stuff done. Not so much.
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...-anything-done
This is where all the money is being spent. Social engineering of a new world order that supports Agenda 2030.
"To accelerate progress towards Canada’s commitment to the 2030 Agenda, the Minister of Children, Families and Social Development was appointed to lead Canada’s implementation of the 2030 Agenda in close collaboration with all other ministers and their departments."
https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-...egy.html#h2.06
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Very good article it clearly shows the sad state of disrepair this country is in and facing. When we finally get a real leader that can make some hard decisions and step on a few toes then and only then we might be able to crawl out of this abyss that this country has fallen into. Until that happens we can only except the status quo and the worsening of the current situation and unfortunately that is all I can see for the near future.
Tend to agree, with the pandering and giveaways I do believe we are going to have to hit rock bottom before anything turns around. Much like a crack head, we will have to lose it all then start again. I just hope it won't be too late.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigboy 304
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Sadly our silent Conservative leader is playing right along with the agendas. The only reason he's giving Trudeau a hard time is because he's pissed off he's not leading the 2030agenda.
Many might disagree, but the trashing of Sloan and demotion of Pierre is proof enough.
The red flags were up on the Conservatives years ago when they called Max Bernier a radical and choose Scheer to lead.
Now the Conservatives have sadly chosen the silent globalist to lead. O'Toole is now silencing his own party members who don't agree with the current path of the UN and WEF, and the rest of the elites pulling his puppet strings.
I do believe the real reason for the removal of Pierre Poilievre from finance critic was that he was receiving too much of the spot light and was showing his superiority over O'toole which is quite easy to see. It's again too bad that he isn't the leader of the federal conservatives as he is a well spoken man that would mop the floor with either O'toole, Truedope or Jagmeet Singh. Another reason I believe O'toole is so quiet and afraid to push the envelope with Truedope and call a election is leading a country that is in such financial disarray and a mess on so many numerous fronts that trudope has put us in and contributed to is not really a job that most would look forward to if they do win the election. As soon as you try to start balancing the budget and spending with in out means and on important things that would actually better the country the left and many other numerous groups would be screaming bloody murder looking for their free government hand outs they have been so a customed to receiving under the current federal abomination.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
Agree on that Tifboy. Pierre presented a serious challenge to O’Toole. And further, was getting the lion share of the spotlight amd soundbytes. When O’Toole needs to be.
With respect to the article, are the brass tacks not really about priorities. Or lack of them/arse backwards?
what’s changed in Ontario since the late 90s? And with respect to the feds and their embarrasing
record on things.
“nuff said”
I agree Pierre has been given the spotlight for presenting facts to parliament and speaking the truth. O'toole attacking his own mp's is sadly ruining any hopes of him winning an election.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigboy 304
O'toole does have allies on his team like Michelle Rempel Garner, whos a member of the WEF and is indeed working towards the agenda, she's just hiding it in plain sight.
Sadly our Conservative party are not what they once were.
Gun owners that think O'toole will reverse all the current gun control laws, bans of the liberals will be very disappointed even if they can win the next election.
I hope that is the game plan...he'd be foolish to take the reins for another 2 yrs....the Liberal will bury themselves like they did in Ontario with Wynne.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tigboy 304
I never thought O'Toole should have been selected at party leader. Poor choice when we needed a strong leader (also Sheers failing).
We can only hope that the voters decide the Village Idiot has to go and the Cons will be granted the mop and bucket to clean up the mess...Like Ford was.
I agree with everything said above and quite frankly O'tooles ties with Proctor and Gamble and his agreement to the Paris Accord scares the crap out of me just the same as a Liberal majority.
With all the destruction to our economy and the push for a universal income for the unemployed, relaxation of jail time for criminals, open borders to illegals and the amount of handouts and gun bans to the country would only assume trudeaus agenda of the people relying on the state is in motion as we speak. Hes purchasing votes by the day as he continues to tell Canadians the government is going in debt so Canadians don't have to.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikePal
Sadly O'toole does not want to open our economy until the whole country is vaccinated regardless to how long that may be. He doesn't care about small business anymore than Trudeau, sadly.
Well when your Visa,mastercard and line of credit is all maxed out not much you can do with no money
With the sorry state of the present Conservative party nothing is going to change, a big part of their base Social Conservatives simply put off a big part of Canadian voters. Does anyone believe they could/would have handled today's problem's any better. The Liberal's have been very bad in many area's and I would like to see some changes but can't see myself switching my vote back to Conservative any time soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBen
Pierre is a hard nosed politician who I believe could get the job done, but he appears to be temporality sidelined.
Once again.
Lets deflect from the brutal record a sitting Liberal gov't has....."sorry state of Cons". You want "sorry"? Look at and read the article....
Your entitled to your stance and reasoning Terry. Some of which I don't disagree with. But as with enabling children, if you are willing ( and it appears you are) to accept failure, scandals and more.
Why should any of them L or C, try or do better. The same mailaise, apathy, willingness to accept ineptitude here provincially led to.....
And with respect to the Con party you simply do not know that. You don't and can't.
It's on you and those like you Terry.
Consider the US, and what things might look like in 4 to 8 years, if people had stuck their heads in the sand and said "Well Biden and the dems suck too"..Better the devil the know, which ever and what ever.
No-one to blame "but oursevles" for the piss poor performance of sitting admins and the sorry state of politics
I can tell by your response your not particularly enamored by either party so can you propose a solution?Quote:
Originally Posted by JBen
A brand new party?
Electoral reform, first past he post gone..?
We need more participants in the debate and less spectators.
I dislike most policticians/parties. Self serving scumbags who care first and foremost about being in power, consequences be damned.
"Solution"
Boot them, make them earn second terms. They will all get the message when we start holding them accountable again. And because first and foremost, self preservation is important to them......But first we, have to stop being ok with crap. It's us that is setting the bar low
It would not be possible to do worse then Trudeau has done.
Face it Gilroy in reality Trudeau has screwed this country. There is less then a 10% chance that my Children or any of this coming generation will ever make it financially as I have.
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Originally Posted by Gilroy
Well in all fairness, we don't know that either.
During the Harris years, I used to think no party could ever do as much damage as Rae did.
Boy was I ever wrong.
Is there anything JT's Liberals have done well at? Anything, that's not "fluff" where objectively we could give them a B?
I have to totally agree with you on this, Gilroy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
It is a sad state the Conservative Party is in at present.
Sadly I believe O'toole has been sipping the cool-aid and may have blood poisoning.
Pierre is the only electable Conservative for the PM position imo.
No matter which way you cut it,one more liberal government,whether the shiny pony is in charge or not,just one and Canada as we knew will never exist or survive ever again.
Well o tool did tell Pierre to button it when he asked about the agenda.Quote:
Originally Posted by canadaman30
Sad really .
If the agenda wasn't a problem what's the big secret ?. Secrets start fights miss information and the unknown.
However it will cost a fortune that's not being talked about and it will be fully funded by the tax payers.
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I heard the other day we ranked 52 in the vaccine race. Yet we have the most vaccines per person than any other place in the world.
Canada is in some deep trouble.
If we loose line 5 we are going to be in a world of hurts.
Still Many are buying into the hot house market new buyers buying what they can afford now not thinking about interest rates and inflation rates rising.
We are brewing our own storm it's going to be a big one .
We will have to pay back the damage,the broken economy. We will have to pay for new opportunities in infrastructure and to reshape Canada. It won't come cheap it's a price we are all going to pay for.
We will all pay the price of opportunities.
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The big problem is the Conservatives are following along with the agendas, but keeping it in the closet. The MP's that speak out about it are being silenced by O'toole. I can't think of any other reason to silence your strongest allies if you have nothing to hide.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishfood