A change of pace and something different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yb_03mFnZE
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A change of pace and something different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yb_03mFnZE
LOL. What happened next, any updates?
No I have never been able to track anything down on him. Not as many of these people in Canada a lot more in the US and lot's in Australia.
Hahaha... I liked running into these nitwits !!!
I was thinking I would tell my old man that i am going to become a Sovereign Citizen, I don't think I could come up with something that he would believe me.
Well he sure changed his tune at the end.
This was over 7 years ago. The driver Steven Finney of Kitchener got a soft judge and was acquitted of assault with a weapon and assault on officer. He was prohibited from driving for a year and fined $1,500. He's damn lucky he wasn't shot. He drove at an officer and when he stopped reached down under the dash both actions that would have most likely made it a justifiable shooting.Quote:
Originally Posted by WillieBeno
https://www.therecord.com/news/water...ng-police.html
Down here you have to show your driver's license and insurance proof - but that's it - if asked you also must get out of the car - cops can't search your car without your permission - if your walking somewhere you don't have to identify yourself to a cop unless you have committed a crime - also if suspected of being DUI you don't have to play those games of walking in a straight line or counting the alphabet backwards - you tell them that you will go along for a blood test - people have certain rights and if they don't use them they lose them - cops can and do lie to you and they are permitted to do so - you need to know that -
Those people are flatout nutbars. He's been watching too much american YouTube videos. I'll bet he changed his tune as soon as the cell door slammed shut.
It doesn't look like he hit the cop with his car - that charge was a lot of crock - he stopped short of doing that - the one thing you got to admit - is someone going to get shot over a lousy traffic violation - down here when a cop uses excessive force or violates the rights of citizens he can be sued but what happens is if found guilty he doesn't pay the victim - the tax payer ends up footing the bill - a bill in congress to made the cop pay the bill is now pending -
Over the years some cops did break the law by violating a citizen's rights and they got away with it but when people stated filming them with their iPhones a lot of them got into trouble - also more people got educated and now know that their rights are - one thing that came out was that the so called good cops who were on the scene did nothing to stop the rogue cop - the cops that stood by when the other cop was kneeling on Floyd's neck are now also in trouble - one thing you got to admit it isn't easy being a cop now a days - they have to deal with a lot of scumbags and this often spills over to when they deal with the average citizen - I wouldn't want to be a cop -
One final point - you as a free man think that you have to right to travel but then you are not allowed to unless you have the state's permission - just think of that for a moment - maybe that Sovereign citizen has a point -
You don't need the state's permission to travel. You do need it to travel in a car. You can walk as much as you like!Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
He was squealing a little girl as they dragged him from the car. Ha HaQuote:
Originally Posted by rick_iles
That's my take on it also. I've watched a few of these type videos and it always ends up the same? You will be exiting the vehicle whether you agree or not. The traffic grid was designed to share, built with tax dollars and those that choose to use itQuote:
Originally Posted by Badenoch
have obligations they have to meet. Period!
One thing in defense of Sovereign Citizens is they like to record themselves providing considerable entertainment. This one is a classic that never gets old.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfVbiefMdNU&ab_channel=Hambone2155
Well that seemed to have worked out for him ... not.
It never does !!Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
"The Dingos stole my baby"...congrats to the CSA for seeing that a child in his care was in trouble.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bushmoose
There is absolutely nothing in Canadian law that justifies anyone from claiming that they're "sovereign citizens". Under our laws,citizens are required to identify themselves when requested by Police with name,address and date of birth under all circumstances. When driving,Police may stop and require a driver to provide their license,registration and proof of insurance for even the most mundane excuse and have it upheld in court.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
Canadians don't have half the civil rights they think they do.
There are something I just do not get. Like when they say over and over and over again. "This is for the record on the record" and they will say it throughout.
That's because they're idiots that don't know what they're talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
Down here if you are walking down the side walk and a cop stops you and asks for identification you don't have to give it - asks where you are going or coming from - you don't have to tell him - lawyers will tell you the safe thing to do is say nothing because anything you say can be used against you in court - there is a case that is now in front of our Supreme Court - where a guy was driving near his home and a cop wanted to pull him over - the cop put on his lights but the guy drove into his driveway and into the garage and started to close the automatic door - the cop put his foot under the garage door and prevented from being shut - guy claims he didn't see the lights and cop had no right to enter his residence without a warrant - right now a cop can chase a guy into his house if the guy committed a felony but not for a misdemeanor like a traffic violation -
I have verified with a friend who is a police officer that if a traffic offence is committed ON private property, they cannot do anything, as the highway traffic act does not apply to private property. Criminal offences can lead to charges on ANY property, private or public. Now, in my interpretation, if the cop indicates a violation occurred on the public road (prior to him entering his driveway), and provides sufficient proof, then the charge can be applied. However, I'm not certain as to the ins and outs of what happens when the person enters their private property. The police officer will likely need a warrant to enter, but I suspect that is not the only way they can deliver a ticket for the offence. The offence probably then would be treated like someone committing a traffic offence (like excessive speeding, or dangerous driving) that was caught on video.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
Hi Trimmer-once i was stopped for "rolling stop"at a stop signQuote:
Originally Posted by trimmer21
Other then my name/insurance/licence /ownership-AND issuing the following ticket.the cop was very pushy about:
Where do i work(i was Ok with that, since i mentioned to him-i was thinking about the work ,so i may miss the full stop.The question ,while strange ,was fitting sort of)but then he was very pushy to tell him : where am I from?
When i tried to buy time and avoid to answer this question-he was like: I do not hear the answer!!!!!! So i reluctantly told him.(not that i am ashamed of my heritage)
What is the situation here...if You do not mind.Thanx
No warrant required....Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
The Police may ask any questions they want,but,we're under no obligation to answer. He was asking questions because you gave him an opening when you mentioned that you were distracted because you were thinking about your work. Really,by stating that,you admitted to failing to exercise due care which could have resulted in a charge for "careless driving". See how that works? Answer questions that pertain directly to the traffic stop. Keep answers short and to the point. Do not engage in small talk and be polite and business like.Quote:
Originally Posted by gbk
I was pulled over Sunday for a "rolling stop". I was 99.8% sure I had stopped, know I looked L ( saw the SUV a few hundred feet away coming north), looked R, looked L and made my left turn.
The SuV was still a couple hundred feet away, and within seconds the lights went on. I pulled over right away, rolled down the window and had my papers waiting. His first words were
"How are you today?". I laughed and said "Well that depends on how this goes" :)
He fed me lines about my wheels not stopping ( private thought, my don't you have eagle eyes from 500 feet and just how alert are you, if staring at my front wheels for no reason) and me forcing him to slow down. " Officer you were still a couple hundred feet away. I appreciate your concerns but it was safe". We chatted, he came back minutes later with a warning, about the tickets he could have written and the 6 points it would have cost. Then said "have a good day".
In my experience, 90% of the time, they are just people to. And it's only one in a few that woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Give them attitude and you'll get it.
Thanx Trimmer and JBen,appreciate Your input.
I got pulled over for speeding about 10 years ago, I forgot I was close to my kid's school and did not realize it (So my bad). Cop was on the side of the road and flashed his lights I pulled over right away and backed up to him.
He said nobody ever stopped that quick and back up to him. I said "well I'm not going to race you and I realize I was speeding" he let me off.
Most cops if your reasonable they will be reasonable, although I have also met some arse holes (that even other cops didn't like him)