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"Thirteen years later, their homes destroyed, their buffalo gone, the last band of free Sioux submitted to white authority at Fort Robinson, Nebraska. The great horse culture of the plains was gone and the American frontier was soon to pass into history"
We are renewing our history here, taking down statues of Sir John A Mc Donald who was behind our aboriginal genocide and supporting and apologizing for our ancestors past sins.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
I'm not! I'm part Irish when will the Liberal government bow down to me and kiss my toes. The Irish were treated like trash in Canada.
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Originally Posted by Gilroy
Don't worry about it I will send you some home grown potatoes as reparations.Quote:
Originally Posted by greatwhite
Another tear-jerker moment. Calling the past an “aboriginal genocide” is disrespectful to all who value truth, including native peoples who are with us today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
You might want to look into what the International tribunal community are calling all the missing indigenous women and children here in Canada. It might coincide with your buddy Trudeau's ankle bracelet he started wearing last summer. Cheers!Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
The "Great Horse Culture' was created by Europeans. The natives did not have horses until they were introduced by the Spanish.Quote:
Originally Posted by JoePa
" The founding prime minister of Canada, John A. Macdonald, and his successor, Alexander Mackenzie, who passed the Indian Act in 1876, both aimed to protect Natives from dishonest whites and to assist them in becoming educated and self-sufficient farmers with a stable, post-nomadic residential livelihood. Macdonald gave them the right to vote. There was a series of revisions to the Indian Act and 11 sequential treaties, and in 1920, school attendance was deemed compulsory for Indigenous children between the ages of seven and 15. These weren’t perfect solutions, and the residential school system did end up causing real harm to many people, but nor were they the malign plans of evil men."
"In 1968, Pierre Trudeau’s government produced a white paper on Indian policy, which denounced the “different status” afforded to First Nations as leading to “a blind alley of deprivation and frustration.” The paper called for the outright integration and the dissolution of the Department of Indian Affairs, for the repeal of the Indian Act, for the existing treaties to be “equitably ended” and for the Crown to divest itself of reserve lands and transfer control to First Nations. Somewhat like the French-Canadians responding to the Durham Report’s advocacy of the assimilation of French-Canadians in 1840, the Natives redoubled their agitation for distinctive status and demanded radical improvements in their living standards and separation from, rather than integration into, the larger society of Canada. Trudeau executed a U-turn and, in the Constitution Act, 1982, the existing treaty rights of the Aboriginal peoples of Canada were “recognized and affirmed.”
"In the words of Alberta conservative political scientist Tom Flanagan, “Canada will be redefined as a multinational state embracing an archipelago of Aboriginal nations that own a third of Canada’s land mass, are immune from federal and provincial taxation, are supported by transfer payments from citizens who do pay taxes, are able to opt out of federal and provincial legislation and engage in ‘nation to nation’ diplomacy with whatever is left of Canada.”
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/conrad-black-7
The aboriginal community is calling it a genocide....Quote:
Originally Posted by 73hunter
Some perhaps. Doesn’t equate to truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
There are very few (any?) nations which provide as much for their indigenous people as Canada does.Quote:
Originally Posted by impact
While the execution of the residential plan was a disaster, the actual plan of having Indigenous peoples join the developing Canada as a nation was a good idea.
If it would have worked, we wouldn't have a million Canadians living in third world conditions on -hole reserves.
It was a well-intention plan - but was executed poorly by some particularly evil people.
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Originally Posted by impact
"Despite everything, even the First Nations should be grateful that the Europeans came here." Conrad Black a pompous twat.
The aboriginal call blocking hwys and railways, burning and destroying public property attacking police and sabotaging our economy peaceful protests.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
https://youtu.be/NMXpweIZcHc
https://youtu.be/c0G6UsuzalQ
It does according to the truth AND reconciliation committeeQuote:
Originally Posted by 73hunter
"In June 2015, the TRC released an Executive Summary of its findings along with 94 "calls to action" regarding reconciliation between Canadians and Indigenous peoples. The Commission officially concluded in December 2015 with the publication of a multi-volume final report that concluded the school system amounted to cultural genocide
cANADAMA
sAME OLD NONSENSE FROM YOU OF TOPIC on real history.
It is interesting how the immigrants were treated when they came to this country - the
It is interesting how the different immigrants were treated when they came to this country - the place was pretty much controlled by the Protestant English at first - the Germans and Eastern Europeans came - then the Irish who were mostly Catholics - then the Italians who were also mostly Catholic - it seemed like the group that was at the bottom of the totem pole produced the most professional boxers because it was a way for some kid to make some money - at one point a lot of fighters were Irish - then came a wave of Italian boxers - then the blacks - now mostly the Spanish - each group had to put up with some prejudice before being accepted - some of this prejudice still exists today - Catholics and Protestants are a lot closer today because they have a common enemy - but the group that was hit the hardest was the native Americans -
True - the Spanish brought them to America - they reproduced and the Indians made use of themQuote:
Originally Posted by Species8472
https://i.imgur.com/gs2gnGj.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Are you saying the videos posted are fake? Or you just won't admit the truth?....lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Just curious, have the indigenous people apologized to each other for when they were killing and raping each other's villages, scalping and and collecting body parts for trophies, cannibalizing and wiping out any other tribes that stood in each other's way? Or is that too far back that we just don't want to believe it happened? The violence and way of life wasn't rainbows and unicorns before European settlement.....how far back does everyone need to apologize for before we can grow and move on? Asking for a friend......
Since the beginning of time lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by LiveBates
People are still blaming the past government for today's mess that happened decades ago lol.
It's easier to just blame someone else .
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"The White Paper on Indian Affairs and Northern Development" was a brilliantly written document which outlined in glaring detail the shortcomings of indigenous relations in Canada. It was written by The Right Honorable Jean Chretien when he was Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development in the Trudeau Cabinet. It was promptly quashed and hidden for decades. It's more accurate,now,than it was then. I'd dearly like to confront Trudeau II with this just to watch him squirm with his politically correct puckered butthole..
That wouldn't fit the narrative, so such inconvenient truths are simply ignored.Quote:
Originally Posted by LiveBates
That doesn’t equate to truth either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Thanx for asking this for me Bates, I have brought this up to a few native friends of mine many times over the years but,,,,,,,,, that period of time doesn't count. Nothing compares to when the colonists came and what we did to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by LiveBates
outback
No problem Outback. I understand the sorry game to an extent, but why is it just us, over and over and over...sorry....sorry....sorry..... he'll, they still to this day bury woman up to they're shoulders and throw rocks at they're heads til they're dead in some parts of the world....the human race has been violent and evil since day one.....yet every day....we're sooorrrryyy....just getting tired of the same old photo ops apologies....rant over....
"Trudeau executed a U-turn and, in the Constitution Act, 1982, the existing treaty rights of the Aboriginal peoples of Canada were “recognized and affirmed.”Quote:
Originally Posted by impact
But up until a few supreme court justices had a few words with him, Trudeau was prepared to give the indigenous people nothing.
You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut
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Originally Posted by Gilroy
What appears to have been the case, from a set of historical volumes which I chance to pick up at a yard sale, was that the indigenous people had an attitude problem when it came to the European colonists work ethic. The indigenous were content to simply survive on hunting and gathering. Whereas the colonists sought to clear the forest, build cabins and towns, till the soil, plain crops, raise livestock and make profits. The indigenous people had the view that the colonist must be crazy to work their backsides off, when nature could provide all that was necessary. How were you going work such people into any national plan, if they didn’t want to work in your interest. The solution was to modify the attitude of the race, by targeting its youth. Isolate them from their indigenous roots and school them in the colonial mind set. It wasn’t a case of wiping the race out, that would have been a physical genocide. The plan was to assimilated the race by indoctrinating the youth, and simply allow the adults to eventually die off. Great plan, however somewhere along the line it got badly mishandled. In the end, there was something of a genocide, an abusive and cultural genocide. of the youth. . . .
You don’t stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut
Genocide was pretty usual in the old day's, I consider the English to have been the worse nation for this, look at the Highland clearances or Irish potato famine, both deliberate attempts to wipe out local populations to steal the land.
Evidence?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilroy
Maybe the genocide was introducing alcohol to natives?
Not too far from where I live is the town of Jim Thorpe - Jim was a Native American who was sent from a reservation in Oklahoma to a school here in Pa. when he was a kid - he was a native Indian who excelled in sports holding many records at the time - when he died the town buried his body and named the town after him - there is a monument where his body is - Oklahoma keeps trying to get the body through the courts - the only way a group of people will flourish is if they assimilate into the society that they live in - trying to live in the 18th century while living in the 21st won't work - it's ok to keep traditions but life style got to change