US calls for temporary halt on Johnson & Johnson vaccination

"The FDA and CDC have announced that they are calling for an immediate pause on the use of the single-dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine on Tuesday after discovering six cases in the United States of a rare and severe type of blood clot that developed about two weeks after the vaccine was administered in these patients."

https://abcnews.go.com/US/us-calls-halt-johnson-johnson-vaccination-blood-clot/story?id=77040882

"The Janssen COVID-19 vaccine (Ad26.COV2.S) is used to prevent COVID-19. This disease is caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2).
The vaccine is approved for people who are 18 years of age and older. Its safety and effectiveness in people younger than 18 years of age have not yet been established.
Health Canada authorized this vaccine with conditions on March 5, 2021, under the interim order respecting the importation, sale and advertising of drugs for use in relation to COVID-19."

https://www.canada.ca/en/health-cana...s/janssen.html

Sadly people taking theses new vaccines are human experiments. Health Canada approving experimental vaccines that haven't been properly tested and telling Canadians they are safe.

Best of luck to our governments attempts to convince half our population to get vaccinated with unsafe experimental drugs

When we were kids our governments and elders told us not to experiment with drugs, now our governments are trying to convince us to be experimental guinea-pigs...No thanks

Reports like this should always be highly suspect. Notice there's no data as to where this occurred,what the demographic was or what underlying conditions existed with recipients. It's all generalities that smacks of more fearmongering and corporate competition skullduggery. There are only 6 reported cases out of over 6million issued doses. Does that suggest shutting down the entire program? I don't see it.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/johnso...NW4Y2ymfBSCA0w

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Reports like this should always be highly suspect. Notice there's no data as to where this occurred,what the demographic was or what underlying conditions existed with recipients. It's all generalities that smacks of more fearmongering and corporate competition skullduggery. There are only 6 reported cases out of over 6million issued doses. Does that suggest shutting down the entire program? I don't see it.

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The odds of getting COVID in the USA are 1-10. The odds of dying are 1-583. The odds of a blood clot from J&J are 1-1,000,000.

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Originally Posted by canadaman30

Sadly people taking theses new vaccines are human experiments. Health Canada approving experimental vaccines that haven't been properly tested and telling Canadians they are safe.

Best of luck to our governments attempts to convince half our population to get vaccinated with unsafe experimental drugs

When we were kids our governments and elders told us not to experiment with drugs, now our governments are trying to convince us to be experimental guinea-pigs...No thanks

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Here is the way it goes you show up at the hospital with difficulty breathing, the waiting room has two other people experiencing the same problem. They have two ICU beds with ventilates available. The triage nurse asks each individual if they had an opportunity to get vaccinated. The two other individuals make the excuse, that they tried but the vaccine at the point where they tried to get vaccinated had run out when it became their turn. You say why would I bother, why would I fool around getting an experimental vaccine? Unfortunately the ICU bed were give to the individuals, who at least attempted to get vaccinated. That is how it is likely to work, if medical resources are at the point of critical availability. A fellow once explain to me he was in emergency, in critical shape. The doctor leaned over his face as he was checking him out. Later after a successive operation and recovery the doctor confess I lean over your face to check to see if you were a smoker. The fellow said he honestly believed if the doctor had detected smoke on my breath, the he would have simply moved on to the next individual.

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Originally Posted by Badenoch

The odds of getting COVID in the USA are 1-10. The odds of dying are 1-583. The odds of a blood clot from J&J are 1-1,000,000.

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The odds of getting blood clots without the vaccine are 0%
The odds of therapeutic drugs saving your life IF you get covid are 99.97%

The J&J vaccine will likely still be good enough for Canada.

As they say... beggars can't be choosers.

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Originally Posted by Gun Nut

Here is the way it goes you show up at the hospital with difficulty breathing, the waiting room has two other people experiencing the same problem. They have two ICU beds with ventilates available. The triage nurse asks each individual if they had an opportunity to get vaccinated. The two other individuals make the excuse, that they tried but the vaccine at the point where they tried to get vaccinated had run out when it became their turn. You say why would I bother, why would I fool around getting an experimental vaccine? Unfortunately the ICU bed were give to the individuals, who at least attempted to get vaccinated. That is how it is likely to work, if medical resources are at the point of critical availability. A fellow once explain to me he was in emergency, in critical shape. The doctor leaned over his face as he was checking him out. Later after a successive operation and recovery the doctor confess I lean over your face to check to see if you were a smoker. The fellow said he honestly believed if the doctor had detected smoke on my breath, the he would have simply moved on to the next individual.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

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Just read an article this morning they warned of the elderly and most at risk of dying will not get the beds. 200 to 300 more go into the ICU and they will be making the decisions.

https://beta.ctvnews.ca/local/toront...1_5384230.html



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Just read an article this morning they warned of the elderly and most at risk of dying will not get the beds. 200 to 300 more go into the ICU and they will be making the decisions.

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Tough triage decision, but a reality check.; if they are 85+ , with underlining comorbidity issues and will probably die within 8 months anyway...push come to shove, you save the younger healthier patient.

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Tough triage decision, but a reality check.; if they are 85+ , with underlining comorbidity issues and will probably die within 8 months anyway...push come to shove, you save the younger healthier patient.

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Given that the most vulnerable have already been vaccinated would it now just become normal yearly deaths?
Why fear mongering about triage?
Why would they become a statistic other than to say that the darn vaccine never worked.
Over 5.8 million people of our most vulnerable have already received a jab. Whats the problem?
What age group and patient demographics in ICU at this time?
Is it only covid or are they bunching in all medical conditions? What percentage are covid?

Still smells like a rat.

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Originally Posted by Gun Nut

Here is the way it goes you show up at the hospital with difficulty breathing, the waiting room has two other people experiencing the same problem. They have two ICU beds with ventilates available. The triage nurse asks each individual if they had an opportunity to get vaccinated. The two other individuals make the excuse, that they tried but the vaccine at the point where they tried to get vaccinated had run out when it became their turn. You say why would I bother, why would I fool around getting an experimental vaccine? Unfortunately the ICU bed were give to the individuals, who at least attempted to get vaccinated. That is how it is likely to work, if medical resources are at the point of critical availability. A fellow once explain to me he was in emergency, in critical shape. The doctor leaned over his face as he was checking him out. Later after a successive operation and recovery the doctor confess I lean over your face to check to see if you were a smoker. The fellow said he honestly believed if the doctor had detected smoke on my breath, the he would have simply moved on to the next individual.

You don't stop hunting because you grow old. You grow old because you stop hunting.
- Gun Nut

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My views are, I've already had it, got sick like any other flu. It is a flu like any other that go's around yearly.

Do I get my annual flu shot, no I do not, my choice like everybody else.

Why would I want to take a experimental drug vaccine that after being vaccinated, it won't stop me from contracting the virus, nor will it stop me from passing it along to others. I can't take my mask off, I still have keep 6ft, follow all restrictions. So basically getting vaccinated will not get me us back to normal that were being told.

If being vaccinated is only going to possibly lesson the symptoms, well I don't see any benefit of it for myself. The symptoms for me were nothing out of a normal flu infection.